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1on1: You are winning, he's running. What should you do?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Scrapnotcrap, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. Bartlebe

    Bartlebe Varangian Warthane
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    You've got a tiny window to kill someone in once they mount up. Once the few second window elapses, I mount up and ride off. I hate chasing.
     
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  2. STDIO

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    Chasing is fun though cause you don't know if you're gonna catch them, it's risky and that makes things a lot more interesting.
     
  3. Fenris

    Fenris Celestial
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    My philosophy also.
     
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  4. Indestructible

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    Mounts die in seconds from max magic direct back hits. Just kill the mount in seconds as a mage or probably have it outrun you as a heavy unless your rocking an r60 bow in which case you'll be able to kill the mount in seconds aswell.
     
  5. Damphousse

    Damphousse Goblin Warrior
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    It all comes down to assessing the situation and managing distance properly. If my opponent is a decent player and I feel he has a chance to win, I keep my distance and play the safe ranged game. If I feel he's skittish I stick on that ass like white on rice before he finds a chance to escape.

    If they've got distance and a mount, you better be Usain Bolt at skiing or they're gone. I usually am a stubborn prick and try to give chase and hope they don't look at the map and manage their route properly, but that's just me.
     
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  6. Navlaan

    Navlaan Infernal

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    I quickly log off and cry myself to sleep because fuck mount Sprint and being able to carry 2+ mounts
     
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  7. Wes Furtive

    Wes Furtive Obsidian Golem
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    If you see them about to cast greater magic (begone) hit them with a come hither. If they mount up before using a movement spell they'll generally be too close for it to amount to anything. Also on your first chase with a bunny hop use stormblast instead of begone so you only take ~30 damage instead of 90. Also a good stormblast can allow at least 2 bolts in the air and a ray as you hit the ground.
     
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  8. Scrapnotcrap

    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
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    Those are good, but the player i was dealing with shoot ice-storm + blind. Even if i don't get the blind, that's enough confusion for me to not get him with the comehilther. Comehilther has become second nature for me, but it's not very viable against good escapist when there's more tools to use than mobility.

    That's also what i do when i chose to run away. I don't have icestorm so i shoot the unholy AOE instead, blind (eye rot or confusion). Then i begone.

    ...

    I hate to bring DnD because i know how most of you guys are, but on DnD, you can use any mobility spells against a mount. This is why nobody's complaining about mounts being fast, you can just comehilther them, literally.
     
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  9. Clarence Swamptown

    Clarence Swamptown Black Knight
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    Every answer defending the current mounts mechanic are irrelevent as nobody have yet to tell me that they thought DFO bluetails weren't balanced.
     
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  10. Avarious

    Avarious Wildtribe Mage
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    A good knock up can either fuck the bhops of the enemy or make them fly even further. Back when I use to play and had a character with such spells I would try to either quickly do a come hither, well placed magma, or a tongue rot in the back and continue the chase.

    Edit: as far as if they are in the mount .. you can down mount extremely quick assuming they aren't already stupid far away. Arrows tear them up but a quick ray cycle can kill them stupid quick.
     
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  11. MerleisAirdburne

    MerleisAirdburne Black Knight
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    Do a 180, go the opposite way and wait for the opponent to rage tell you asking why you ran away. So many try hards do that
     
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  12. STDIO

    STDIO Gravelord
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    Cover your ears and shout "Im not listening!"

    Im not saying the current mount system is great, but this isn't a valid argument against it.
     
  13. Pink Floyd

    Pink Floyd Undead Dwarf
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    Hahahahaha, this thread is terrible. Come on, man. Like I would ever be winning a 1v1. Get outta here.









    :disappointed:
     
  14. Clarence Swamptown

    Clarence Swamptown Black Knight
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    How is it not a valid argument? If something is considered balanced and a good tradeoff, and then you boost his speed and his total hp significantly (not only making it faster, but also removing the tradeoff), it can't be balanced now. To say that current regular mounts are balanced is to say that DFO bluetails were underpowered. This is pure logic. Maybe you think that they were underpowered, in which case we can agree to disagree, but so far I have asked that question like 10 times and nobody told me it was the case.

    I'm not covering my ears, legit nobody said it yet. If you think they were underpowered, then say it. If you can't bring yourself to say it, than you are admitting current mounts are not balanced.
     
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  15. Sacrillegious

    Sacrillegious Fire Elemental
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    I always chase and I never fucking stop until either I am dead or he is
     
  16. merkmerk73

    merkmerk73 Earth Elemental

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    Are you even capable of having an opinion that isn't cancer to the game?
     
  17. Sero

    Sero Menhir Sentinal
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    I cry, because fuck that shit.

    Chase... cautiously...
     
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  18. Tron

    Tron Goblin Warrior
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    Ok so how is he getting away?

    If he started bunnyhopping, first I will try to interrupt it with come hither. If he's successful, I instantly spawn my mount and sprint after him. He loses HP and I dont. When he eventually misses his bhop get off mount and try to one shot him bc he is at 1 hp.

    If he mounts and sprints right away, try to dps the mount as fast as I can and Bhop maybe once or twice to keep up. If I cant get him down I will usually just give up and go about my day.
     
  19. Clarence Swamptown

    Clarence Swamptown Black Knight
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    I could ask you the same thing. Other than crying left and right I don't see you contributing alot...

    I asked a really easy question to answer. Can you answer it or not?
     
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  20. apophis

    apophis Goblin Warlord
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    people will always vote for the easier option

    you see in dfo a lot of bad players would just try to mount up and run from a fight, which results in the attacker easily bunnhopping up to them , 3-4 shotting their btail and killing them. they thought bunnyhopping was overpowered and cried.

    good players understood you needed to get some distance with blinds/bhops first before mounting, and then going south/west, using terrain etc. in this scenario bluetails are balanced

    people like being able to just mount up and run, no thought required, no player skill. ez pz mount and go

    i have faith bpg will balance this shit, it's really crazy they must see it
     
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