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Back Damage

Discussion in 'Design Discussions' started by kilrain, Jun 3, 2019.

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Back Damage % Increase

  1. 20% (current)

    38 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. 30% (middle ground)

    40 vote(s)
    35.1%
  3. 40% (old school)

    59 vote(s)
    51.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. kilrain

    kilrain Shadow Knight
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    We've had plenty of time with back damage at 20%, down from the previous 40% and we've had mixed reactions. Some people have liked it at 20 and some people want it increased so we'll put out another poll to see what people think. I'll put in 3 options; 20, 30, and 40% let me know your thoughts on it.

    You have unlimited votes so you can pick 2 or 3 if you are not certain which you would prefer the most.

    Update: Public test server currently testing 30%
     
    #1 kilrain, Jun 3, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
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  2. Kantor

    Kantor Black Knight
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    Zero
     
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  3. Auron

    Auron Chosen of Khamset
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  4. Nat

    Nat Shadow Knight
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    Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I like it as it is. Previously it rewarded aggression too much and caused so many fights to snowball because playing defensively was difficult.
     
  5. Sero

    Sero Menhir Sentinal
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    40%

    I'm sick of people being able to run away for minimal penalty.
     
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  6. Methodico

    Methodico Air Elemental

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    20 Is good
     
  7. chad

    chad Infernal
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I think it's just absurd when you can hit someone in the back in melee 10x straight without them dying. (with an r70)

    Btw, can we lower the CD on pungent and bring its damage back? Idc if it's instacast.
    Maybe eye rot could get a lower cd as well?

    Ty. Honor for all.
     
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  8. DeadlyHit

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    pmuch main issue at is Destros can go fkin hard whilst taking such little damage in those backlines NERF DESTRO


    edit: chads gay
     
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  9. The Red King

    The Red King Black Knight
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    Put destro back damage back to 40 percent
    Lower protections back to Vanilla DF1 on destro and mages
    Put eye rot on 30 second cooldown with damage
    Put pungeant back on 30 second cool down - leave timer
    Remove wof from aoe cooldown

    Add 1 point to each transfer and 1 or two points to witches brew and heal self

    Make new robes support - bonus duration / bonus healing

    Leave hybrid alone

    =win!
     
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  10. Hammerthestonespeedo

    Hammerthestonespeedo Goblin Warrior

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    Why just 40% just make it double so the damage to make sure no1 can run away from pvp
     
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  11. Lexendros

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    Absolutely not.
     
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  12. Scrubby Bear

    Scrubby Bear Eodrin
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    I would prefer the 40% back, but I see no reason we couldn't try 30% for awhile and see how it plays.
     
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  13. Brando Pando

    Brando Pando Dire Zombie
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    This is a good point.
     
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  14. Fengor

    Fengor Obsidian Golem

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    Exactly.



    ( patch indestructible in next server up ty)
     
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  15. Hammerthestonespeedo

    Hammerthestonespeedo Goblin Warrior

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    Hello double damage in the back then no1 can run from pvp
     
  16. Isaac Clarke

    Isaac Clarke Chosen of Khamset
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    TTK is in an okay spot atm, still a little on the low side imo

    I wouldn't change back dmg currently and lower TTK further

    Unless there's a cmb revert we're just opening up the never ending balancing act again
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    Very few people can do that even as it is now

    I'd say theres maybe a dozen people tops playing that can confidently bhop away under pressure and not die to sprain
    --- Post updated ---

    The problem in that case is heavy protections, they've been too high for too long. Back damage increase with the current TTK and server performance is going to be a shitshow
     
  17. Schnid

    Schnid Akathar
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    Looks like the 70 people that play have voted so can we just revert already? Give the people what they want or do you guys not like money?
     
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  18. Blaze

    Blaze Varangian Warthane

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    Tired of mages just turning around and taking like no extra dmg xD
    Down for either 40% or 30%
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    Eh I disagree tho u can still play defensively with the shield without having to give up your back 50% of the fight
     
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  19. BeatIt

    BeatIt Obsidian Golem
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    old school but bring back buff others... call me stupid but the best way to balance Df combat is to fully revert and work from there by adding spec like destro/ mage killer and robe should be a healer/buffer/support spec.

    but thats my opinion
     
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  20. Isaac Clarke

    Isaac Clarke Chosen of Khamset
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    The best option has always been this^

    Combat balancing and changes just need to end, this constant uncertainty is a main reason for dedicated players losing motivation and quitting
     
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