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Bring back 75 begone

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Grimtide, Dec 6, 2016.

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Bring back old 75 magnitude begone?

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  1. Grimtide

    Grimtide Evil Eye
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    New mount changes make this necessary imo.

    What's everyone else think?
     
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  2. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    Cause people should not be able to outrun mounts more then a cpl of hops. b hop for tactical purposes not cause is superhero
     
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  3. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    if Bunny hop was fixed so that it couldnt be done or maxed out at a speed SLIGHTLY faster then sprint then i would say do whatever people want done with begone, as it stands its only used to exploit the physics engine and should be completely diasbled. Also i know how to bunny hop and i can as much as i want to, i dont want to and i dont think others should be able to either.
     
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    Scrubby Bear Eodrin
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    The only place where its that big of a deal is in the water due to the buff to ship speed which has separated swimmer and ship speed too much. All they have to do to fix that without re-breaking land begoning is to give the ability to jump to shrapnel so we can water shrapnel again. Land begone is fine as is imo.
     
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  5. Super Star

    Super Star Oak Lord
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    its not needed, in its current form its good enough. Most of a nerf you could expect would be a slight reduction in normal mount health maybe by 50-100 to compensate
     
  6. Grimtide

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    I can accept that
     
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  7. Ford Prefect

    Ford Prefect Frostjarl
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    I say no...but add mounted archery to the game.
     
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  8. Grimtide

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    sure but lets make it so the crosshair is bouncing all over the place while you are riding and aiming a bow.
     
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  9. VVolfgang

    VVolfgang Fire Elemental
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    I say no... because you shouldn't be able to ski across water from a ridiculous distance and catch a ship. I do like the mounted bow Idea. If that's to much then maybe have the mount bite replaced by it spitting acid similar to a Naled.
     
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  10. Grimtide

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    With 75 begone it still wouldn't be enough to gain on a 100% at speed moving boat because they increased boat travel time in RoA from DFO. The captain would have to make a dumb mistake to get caught by swimmers. On land, they've increased mount speed across the board with sprint and just non sprint speed. This was AFTER they nerfed begone and now it's almost impossible to catch someone with 2 slow mounts before they're far far away (i'm talking about 1v1, not if ur zerging). Also the opposite is true, it's almost impossible to outrun a zerg if you don't have a mount because 50 begone just doesn't have enough magnitude. The mount patch and begone need to be looked at together because they both are part of balancing the anti zerg and zerg mechanics of darkfall.
     
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  11. VVolfgang

    VVolfgang Fire Elemental
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    I haven't been on a ship in ROA but a handful of times. I heard they increased the speed but I really couldn't tell. If it doesn't get as crazy skiing on water as it did in DFO then I would go along with it. I also see the point in an increase with the mount changes. As I said as long as it didn't make water skiing on a ridiculous level I could live with it.
     
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    Sero Gnoll Vilegaunt
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    Nah. fuck begone. Fuck bunnyhopping. I used to be a big advocate for bunnyhopping, then I realized it's heavily sided towards the side that starts hopping first. Shits pretty retarded when you can reset fights 24/7 or hop then turn. if anything add it back but heavily increase cooldowns, so it can be used as a means to burst your.way up to someone, in no form should it be sustainable. Also get rid of light spikes, thanks.
     
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  13. Grimtide

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    at least bunny hopping was skillful where as popping a 400 hp slow mount that got increased to bluetail speed with sprint post begone nerf takes.....no skill? auto run?
     
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    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    Takes lots of skill to exploit a flaw in a game. you shouldn't catch people on mounts period. if you are in front of them great. if you are too far behind too bad, you missed your chance for the kill. gg.
     
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    It's not an exploit, lol.
     
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    I miss 75 begone but I think it'd be broken with it working in all directions. Racial mounts should probably be nerfed to 200-250 hp though, and maybe +50 kg.
     
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    How has bunny hop changed did I miss read a patch?
     
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    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    they could always code a spot in the UI for a mount and make it so they can only have the one mount it might appease people. What i dont get is the blatant self entitlement of there is a player i can see its my god given right to be able to fly across the tile up to him to kill him, how dare he run away on his mount!
     
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  19. Korag

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    as it should be, hoping should not be faster than a mount
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    exactly play smarter, kill mount faster or lose the kill, no way any player should be behind a player mounted then be able to catch or outrun em,
     
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    I agree with you in getting rid of light spikes that's getting insane trying to catch someone who knows how to do it with ease almost impossible
     
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