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Bring back 75 begone

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Grimtide, Dec 6, 2016.

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Bring back old 75 magnitude begone?

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  1. Sithra

    Sithra Goblin Warrior
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    So it sounds like the two constructive ideas most of us are digging is possibility of mounted combat or mounts slowing with damage.

    Either of these, or both, sound good to me, but I favor the mounted archery. Personally I think people should be able to turn more than 90 degrees and fire back at least somewhat. Mostly because I think it would balance well when they're watching you pursue them they aren't watching to avoid running into trees. But that might create some pve issues with kiting mobs too easily.
     
  2. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    Maybe just make mounts weaker to attacks, keeps them from being useless in pve but keeps them from causing tears on the forums?
     
  3. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    firing back would be a bad idea, if your running from a fight you should be vulnerable. At best a 200° swing so you can get a little bit back to use turns to get damage on but allows people to close the gap, or side on shooting.
     
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  4. Sithra

    Sithra Goblin Warrior
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    That'd be neat if you could fire toward rear flanks but not straight back. Then you'd have to turn some and let them gain on you to try to fight back, or commit to running away.
     
  5. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    best way to do it, Allows more mounted combat, ability to decide if you want in or out of the battle, Also should lock 3rd person to the same arc so you cant actually see the people chasing you. Would make jumping to avoid attacks or changing direction harder to accomplish without negative outcome.
     
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  6. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    I like it when people look back to see me coming and smash into a bush, rock or Tree and allows me to corner or catch up to kill them or mount..
     
  7. Dixie Normus

    Dixie Normus Black Knight
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    i agree that stuff needs a bit of a change maybe mount health plus the amount you can carry total. or redo the mount recipes so they arent ez pz to get a bajillion of them. you risk more carrying multiple mounts but have better chance of escaping. mount archery isnt a bad option either if implemented correctly.
     
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  8. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    no, tons of people quit because of b hoppin and people loudly stated that they do not wanna play a chase game, they want to play a pvp game. Chasing is not fun, and running away from a fight should never be considered skillful
     
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  9. Kal Ki

    Kal Ki Goblin Warrior
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    The amount of people who would quit if they removed bunny-hopping is WAY higher than the amount of people who would start playing if they removed it.
     
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  10. Battle Smurf

    Battle Smurf Oak Lord
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    I'm not disagreeeing

    Remove WoF
    Make disable only work when the person is parrying
    Make disable duration a static time regardless of skill level preferably less than the current max duration
    Cut Magma knock up in half
    Increase Magma direct hit damage

    I personally don't think there's anything wrong with Inferno but if you want the knock up removed you got to give it something else

    Fireball is fine
    Blinds are fine
    Make spell reflect a VERY short cast time and lower the duration to be a reactive ability
    Make cross buffs have better range but lower duration
    Consolidate self buffs

    Simple stuff that would make a big difference
     
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  11. Scrapnotcrap

    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
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    The same guys who want wof removed are still not using battle-spikes.

    With comehilther now blockable, you guys still cry about wof?

    Imo, wof still feels OP because of all the unblockable spells we have access to: debuffs, drains... so why not just make everything become blockable first?
     
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  12. Scrubby Bear

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    Wof is OP because it is an AoE snare. It doesn't matter if all those spells are blockable, as soon as you are in a wof you are instantly disabled anyways unless you are fighting complete noobs. A lot of groups even save their wofs for pre-disabled targets. The only way it would be balanced in its current mobility snare form is if it also purged all debuffs from anyone in its sphere and also blocked all ranged damage.
     
  13. Scrapnotcrap

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    removing something from the game is not happening.

    So you want wof to become a spell for warriors?
     
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    Aristos Giannes Cairn Giant
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    I really like the idea of magma doing more damage and having the vanilla huge knockup only if it travels a certain amount. So close range it would just knockback and have low damage instead of a knockup.
     
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    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    You a dev on this game? curious how you can say removing something from this game is not happening so authoritatively while being just player....
     
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    why is this a bad thing
     
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    Sometime, you gotta be realistic. They're not gonna remove anything, especially when it's not a bug nor an exploit.
     
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    Sero Gnoll Vilegaunt
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    Eww, no. then you get punished when you attempt to range disable.
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    Because its a get out of jail free card? the same as bunnyhopping, except this time you arent taking fall damage.

    Mount health does seem a little high at 400...
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    If you think hardcore players outnumber casuals you're high.
     
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  19. Scrubby Bear

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    Bunny hopping isn't only a hardcore thing. Its actually one of the more casual friendly skills you learn, as in it takes a minute to grasp the basics and start doing it once you have the spells. It takes much longer to master to where you can consistently god hop, which is fine.
     
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  20. billysunday

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    its not fine. it looks retarded and makes people that CAN ALSO DO IT sadface because they know its a big reason why the game failed and will fail again if not taken very seriously
     
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