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Concerns about naked pvp

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Down Here, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Down Here

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    Too many people roll around robed/chest pieced up because there are 0% damage nerf while playing naked(prob do more magic damage in a robe considering 0 encumberence).

    Can we maybe get some DMG debufs for robed players to prevent naked pvp/ naked zerging?

    What are your guys' opinions agree or disagree?
     
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  2. Super Star

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    disagree, stop losing to nakeds
     
  3. Animal

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    Wrong. They come en masse. We're discussing the naked zerg of high end players that are afraid of losing pixels or being put in videos, so they choose to robe and zerg when the opportunity presents itself.
     
  4. Super Star

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    ohh, so ur saying u want to nerf naked fighting because the people you are raiding are too difficult to kill while wearing nothing? Why dont u just raid them in robes if u know they arent going to be wearing anything? even up the playing field
     
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    Look at superstar, being a thick idiot as always.
     
  6. MikerotchBAGFACE

    MikerotchBAGFACE Varangian Warthane

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    this is such a troll ass response, there needs to be more risk vs reward, the armor system was one of my biggest problems with this game on eu1. I remember thinking well shit i can run around naked and kill ppl the entirety of this shit game. It was one of the main reasons i quit until long after na rollover. Melee and archery should do cap damage to people in robes every hit.
     
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  7. DarkGhost25

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    I don't have a solution to the robes issue but it definitely is a problem imo. People can be quite deadly even with minimal armor and it is always a bad feeling to die to someone wearing basically 0g worth of armor. It also makes the game look silly when tons of people will only wear robes even though they're bad.
     
  8. Super Star

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    how am i being thick. This thread was made because they are raiding people that arent wearing gear, and are mad that they arent getting to loot anything worth fighting for. Even if wearing no gear made u take cap dmg, it isnt going to make people put on gear if they dont want to. Lets say they take full cap every hit if they are naked or wearing a robe. So now they just wear a plate chest. "Nerf plate chests, they are essentially wearing no gear and putting up a fight". Ok now theres a nerf in another way. Next step is put on full bone, "oh no full bone is too strong, they are risking a low set and still putting up a fight". Bone is cheap as fuck, the reason they would just go naked or with a robe is because it take less time to equip
     
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  9. Vrain

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    Just introduce extra crit dmg to robbed/naked warriors ;) whether melee spell or arrow
     
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    We all rag on unholy wars but making people wearing no/partial armor take extra damage was great, and robes were a legit and very cool armor to wear too. I think roa needs to make robes a legit option, especially with 100 tailoring being a requirement to make extravagant robes.
     
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    This
     
  12. Scrubby Bear

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    The whole point is they will just wear shitty gear like they did in UW. Cool, now instead of naked they are in padded.
     
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    That's a quick fix but robes should have a place in the game, they need major changes.
    --- Post updated ---
    At least padded gave attack speed though.
     
  14. Slayven

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    a mage should not get extra damage or faster casting the less they wear it should be what they put on should be raiseing those things not taking it off.
     
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    If armor is not worth the cost, then that's a valid discussion to have. If the problem is more to do with zerging, then I can't help you, buddy. This is Darkfall. It's not about fair fights. Get zerged hard enough and it doesn't matter what they are wearing.

    I remember in DF1, while in the guild Dominion, raiding Hammerdale when it was owned by NEW. Sure, we would get zerged down, but other times we would win against huge numbers. I remember one particular time when we stretched out the NEW zerg pretty far, and then 3 of us held our ground. Me, Fspy, and Angelus. We won against about 15 people. We couldn't even get half the loot because they kept streaming out of the city, but a win is a win.
     
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    How about making nakeds actions (melee/archer/magic) costs double normal stat cost?

    Then you could actually incentivize everyone to gear up by making low quality armor still have 25% more stat cost. Med qual armor normal stat cost. High quality armor could give 10% reduced stat cost. You'd have to put in an expensive high tier mage (and maybe archery?) armor tho.

    If a bunch of scrubs in low tier armor zerg you in a high end bag you have the longevity from extra stat efficiency to fight longer/outnumbered.
     
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    It's a decent concept but it would punish the new players that actually use those armors regularly and create a meta in which only strong armor is viable.
     
  18. Vrain

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    They do keep your toon warm my son ;) + maximum spell dmg and cast time. We need ppl to wear pixels not to take em off. Some ppl can kill naked ,fully geared opponents but that is just the nature of this game. Some guys are just better at the game no matter what you gonna change.
     
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    They should redo the encumbrance system all together
    Mage gear brings it down
    Heavy brings it up
     
  20. Scrubby Bear

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    Another thing is how deep of a hole do you want people being bind camped to be in?