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CP Combat Discussion

Discussion in 'Design Discussions' started by Andrew, 6 November 2018.

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Thoughts on combat? (See thread for details)

Poll closed 13 November 2018.
  1. Option 1: Revert and poll some changes to keep

    70.2%
  2. Option 2: Tweak current combat

    21.5%
  3. Option 3: No touchy combat right now

    8.3%
  1. Squanto

    Squanto Black Knight
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    When the revert poll passes, you should do a full revert. Let us experience the game again without all of the changes and then poll it from there, then we can see exactly what we do and don't like. I'd like for it to be fully reverted on live, but if you don't want to do that do it on test server. After a week or so of the old combat, then poll all of the changes individually, require 60 or 65% for it to pass.
     
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  2. Juicy

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    THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.
    Back dmg is stays at what it is (slows down dps a slight bit)
    Eye Rot and Pmist stays the same
    Best Game 10/10
     
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  3. BeatIt

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    10000% agreeeee
     
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  4. KeredCaltith

    KeredCaltith Goblin Warlord

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    • Clicking before a casting timer is finished will “catch” the cast and will require you to release again to finish
    I want to keep this even if it means having to keep all the other combat changes.
     
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  5. Dum Dum

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    Voted for revert but afraid how long it will take for them to do it.. im not immortal
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    For some reason they want to claim this quality of life feature is a combat change.
     
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  6. Andrew

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    As a clarification: If revert wins which at this point it looks like it will it will be done in a single patch on PTS first and then pushed to live after playtesting/QA is completed. We're not going to revert back and then poll each thing one at a time we're going to put everything on the block in a single vote and whatever is voted to stay will stay, whatever is not will get pulled.

    If by tomorrow night there's not much movement in percentages than we'll call the vote over and open up the next poll on what specifics to handle.

    Reverting absolutely everything back and then pulling forward would be a colossal waste of time to go over each piece to revert, it's a lot of commits to hunt through and it would not be efficient if most things are going to be likely voted to stay.
     
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  7. ArrowExpert

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    Thank you for the feed back. Keep up the good work.
     
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  8. Andrew

    Andrew Eodrin
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    Our new polling section of the site is almost done, was QA'ing it with Teemez tonight(He was up for some reason a little while ago lol, he's in Europe!). Debugging a few issues but the combat revert should be the first poll we put on there in a couple of days once it is finished off.
     
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  9. GoodDoggie

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    The only change Id 100% keep is bspike nerf.

    Pmist was always fine, it barely blinded, and cost a ton, with the change it basically doesnt exist.

    Eye rot spam was kinda annoying, keeping this Im on the fence on.

    Back dmg has to come back, there needs to be a risk to turning your back to run around terrain for years, or tunnelvisioning in a teamfight.

    Paperdoll lock weapon swap delay needs to come back too, otherwise people with low ping have their advantage quadrupled and are essentially playing a different game. Sure it makes the game feel less smooth for low pingers but there needs to be a predictable delay and none of this block ray block shit.
     
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  10. Zaffa Hex

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    I am confused.

    You made a poll with option to revert and poll some changes to stay. Now you are saying that 'reverting absolutely everything back and then pulling forward would a colossal waste of time', despite that being exactly what your own poll option offers?

    You also say that 'most things are going to be likely voted to stay', before even holing a vote!

    Why offer a poll option if you are already retrreating head long from it within 24 hours? lol...
     
  11. JEDIMind

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    some stuff you added to combat that's not really combat related in ways were amazing. For example..impale not taking up half your screen...a++ change..so I'm gonna hate to see that kinda good stuff go but if it gets us a full revert it's worth it. Good post
     
  12. GoodDoggie

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    Nothing to be confused about, a poll always has a goal.
     
  13. JEDIMind

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    I legit was gonna write up the same thing but I think Sero hit it perfect. These changes were great, and personally I would like to see everything on this list stay in.
     
  14. Methodico

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    No self buff,No back damage , no battle spike jump, we need to remove objects on ready bags not add them, then I'm OK with revert but I'm feeling that we find everything to avoid going on.
     
  15. Dingbat

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    What is this obession with changing combat all the time, nothing will please everyone and i'm sure nearly everyone will agree this is wasted dev time. People returning to the game should not have to re-learn the combat system again, it's difficult enough figuring out what's changed and why that might be contributing to being awful.
     
  16. GoodDoggie

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    Obviously I only speak for myself,but:
    I dont have 5 ping, cant melee push, and the only reason I am not playing right now and didnt play the last 5 months was because they ruined the combat, and would come back if the changes were reverted.
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    Probably a finn, they are creatures of the night.
     
  17. Animal

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    I patiently await the day I can go back to pungent+eye rot melee push(...not).

    That shit was fucking stupid and I don't think anyone legitimately enjoyed it.
     
  18. Mega

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    Are you going to seriously revert combat based on 66 votes :joycat:
     
  19. ArrowExpert

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    You posted earlier and then deleted your thread. Came back wrote another stupid comment because 1. there is only 50 actives a night and 2. I don’t even think you play the game.
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    You will be back to B tier after the revert baby<3
     
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  20. Animal

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    When the fuck did I get upgraded from Donnador tier?

    Y'all been lying to me all along :tearsofjoy:
     
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