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Defiance Member Mad Jick Banned for TOS after Duped/Exploited gold used on Market

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OlafBarlah, Jul 27, 2018.

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  1. BumpyKnuckles

    BumpyKnuckles Dire Zombie

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    So Dupefiance tried to cheat during the tourney. We shouldnt be surprised anymore after the during scandal

    I also noticed a lot of their members think it's all funny to dupe.
     
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  2. Marxman

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    Yeah Yellow Ranger was allowing other people to use his account for a tourney, that wouldn't be an issue if he just let people know before joining but he tried to trick people and Yellow Rangers account was chosen for that specific reason. That account wont be allowed in the Calfadar Arena, for obvious reasons.
     
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  3. Johhny Mad Dog

    Johhny Mad Dog Celestial

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    I don't think so and I don't agree either. The game already has so many blue zones. You can farm good money with no risk at all because of the blue zones combined with everybody wanting to stay blue for the benefits of it. There is a lot of gear now because open world pvp has become even more rare then in DFO times.

    I have seen pvp video's during launch in which good players takes on 8 or 10 players with only 2 or 3 with little effort. New players don't actually quit for losing some gear they quit because the fights the get are hardly a fun fight if their whole crew of 10 get slaughtered within 2 a 3 minutes by 2 people. They will lose motivation and eventually quit. I have seen it a dozen of times and im sure most of us have seen it happen. Vets will see it as an achievement. Something to brag about. They are forgetting that there is a very big chance that the people they just slaughtered might lose interest into the game. Especially if it keeps happening over and over.

    It's about the huge gap between new players AND the toxicity from (most) veterans towards new players. The fact that most veterans don't give a fuck. They rather boost their egotistical and narcissistic needs withouth thinking about the consequences their behaviour has. Like a true narcist they will blame the game, the developers or even the noobs telling them to "get guud" etc. Totally denying that their own behaviour (amongst other things) also has an impact for the population.

    We can't put all the blame on the game or it's developers. Only thing the developers can do is trying to make the learning curve and the gap between new and veterans smaller. Easier Gui and bindings etc but they can't change the behaviour. Want a healthier game? Some might start with changing the way they act....which might be hard for some...withouth the help of a therapist :)
     
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  4. Marxman

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    Very well said.

    The reason the game has a low population is 100% because of the incredibly toxic veteran base. They will play dumb and play semantics about what certain words like "veteran" means and they will intentionally try to broaden the term to mean just about anybody but its extremely dishonest and they know it. Doesn't matter what word you use in place of "veteran" or "noob", they will twist it to mean whatever best suits their ego.
     
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    wait what happened?
     
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    Thats all good and all, but unless theres something in game to push vets to leave noobs alone, it's not going to happen.

    Someone got on yellow rangers account and tried to steal got faced tourney, I didn't let them.
     
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    It was pretty fuckin funny.
     
  8. Marxman

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    Duping is pretty funny to you guys too apparently
     
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    Yeah thats what I'm talking aboot. It was pretty fucking funny.
     
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    I think it should be less about "leaving noobs alone" and more about protecting noobs and taking them under their wing. Upper tier clans don't like to do this because it will inflate their numbers and give them less to brag about when they win because they think in extremely black and white terms.

    For example, Sicario is always "selectively recruiting" or "recruiting a smaller group of players" they love to say (even though their group is essentially the same size as any other group lol), so say if 10 sicario (who are all above average) kill 12 justice (who are all below average) they get to stroke their epeen and pretend they won a fight they had a disadvantage in, when really they had a massive advantage but if all you look at is "10v12", yes they won with a disadvantage, but its so much more complicated than "10v12" and everybody knows this but it helps their ego to ignore the fact 10 elitists just killed 12 noobs/lower tier players.

    I remember at launch of this game within the first month or two there was entire groups of people who scrolled their magic and what not up to level 5 (or 100 at the time) then they would raid a city largely of noobs with extremely low level magic and absolutely decimate everybody even with half the numbers then turn around and pretend they are the biggest badasses ever because they see it as "4v10" and nothing else matters, no other factors go into who had the advantage, nope, just "4v10" that's it. The 4 are clearly superior human beings to the 10, it had nothing to do with the fact they played for years and played in beta and scrolled all their magic up within the first month by buying gold no no no had nothing to do with any of that, they won 4v10 because they are genetically superior and naturally better at the game than the people they killed. If you say otherwise, you just have a victim or losers mentality, this is what they all say to stroke each others epeen.

    This sort of mentality is absolutely toxic and game killing, yet extremely pervasive. What needs to be done is people who have any shred of honesty in their bones (and there definitely are a good bit of them) to team up and help fight against these elitist fucks. Just like the elitists all love to nutcup each other so they never lose, the non-elitists should start also teaming up for better chances of survival, even if it becomes a "zerg", numbers are not everything not even close and we should just reject that entire premise because its incredibly false and intentionally misleading.

    Just to reiterate, killing 100 brownies is not a bigger feat than killing 50 dragons, that's retarded. Numbers are not all that matters, when we act like it is that will always benefit the egos of the elitists which is exactly why they constantly do it, let's just stop caring what they say or think and be honest with ourselves.
     
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    Ur wasting ur breath big dog
     
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    Just to clear something up, I am the one selectively recruiting, they are recruiting players that like to play with a small group, I believe our clans have different end goals.
     
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    In order to have a small group (which they dont lol, like I said they are the same size as any other clan essentially) but to keep recruiting constantly they have to selectively recruit. It's the exact same shit, that's why you guys get along together, same mentality. "selective recruitment" "small group", all ties in exactly with what I was saying about how elitists only care about numbers and pretend that's all that matters, unless ofc they lose with equal numbers then all the sudden excuses are now relevant.
     
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    yes surely has nothing to do with wanting to play with friends. You must be right though, thank god for the communist mentality and that baller community college.
     
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    It's the developers faults for allowing those kinds of players to do what they do. It is their game and their responsibility to make it fun, populated, and profitable. As it is now, that's not the case. Are you saying the solution is to change human behavior? That's a fucking joke.
     
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    Look dude, we got a 100 year plan going here... We got time.
     
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  17. GrimReapiN

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    Is it egotistical or narcissistic to not wish to die to 10 players?

    The argument doesn't check out, and never will.

    DO NOT BLAME THE PLAYERS FOR THE GAME'S FAILINGS.

    What failure is that, you might ask?

    Not providing low skill pvp options for low skilled players.

    In fact, that's the wrong way to put it.

    Here it is....

    Drum roll please....

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    Add arena.

    Holy fuck! What a concept!
    Why?

    Because high skill players will choose high skill PvP, while the low skill, non competitive players will opt out. So, high skill players no longer HAVE* to prey on the lowly skilled.
    *HAVE TO. Because they cant find PvP elsewhere, they take what they can get.DING DING DING!

    In fact, the only time we'd see this is if high skill players sandbag at villages or sieges, which is considered a waste of time to them anyhow.
     
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    That is assuming that high skill or high gear/character players don't want to stroke their ego by smashing in noobs.
     
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  19. Johhny Mad Dog

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    Just a short reply

    There we are again. There is not enough content so we must kill noobs instead. Classic one. Lets put all the blame on the game again. Must easier then trying to change something.

    Darkfall is known for it's freedom. A bit sandbox. It doesnt has features a Arena and such the idea was people would create events themself. You want instant arena then we have other games for that.
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    Narcistic people will always lack the abilty to look at themself and instead go blaming others and discussions are pointless. This is not a big game like WoW. This is Darkfall. A small community in which we as players depend on each other (good and bad). So your behaviour as player DOES have a bigger influence then in most other games.
     
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  20. Sero

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    And when the noob is in your spawn, killing your mob?
     
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