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Defiance Member Mad Jick Banned for TOS after Duped/Exploited gold used on Market

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OlafBarlah, Jul 27, 2018.

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  1. kinglear

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    BANK STARING IS A CROSS PLATFORM SHARED ACTIVITY
     
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  2. Scrubby Bear

    Scrubby Bear Eodrin
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    The hardware we all have now is much more powerful than what was standard when DFO was released, yet the game runs worse than ever :(
    Even 'low hanging fruit' performance gains like the shit GUI that takes sometimes over 50fps away hasn't been optimized at all. I guess they are too busy throwing away dev time on shit the game didn't need yet like combat changes.

    Without the engine itself being optimized, especially to take better advantage of multiple cores I don't see a graphically more appealing game running well at all. What we currently have is a game that looks like garbage for sure, but it still couldn't deliver 60fps minimum at sieges with new high end hardware before the population died out. Really 144fps should be the target for even siege combat for above average hardware at low settings. Not the current 10v10 dead as fuck game siege combat either, but actual populated game sieges of at least 40v40 to 100+ per side.
     
  3. Urek Mazino

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    I WISH
     
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    Not_Primetime Infernal
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    And Taps plays quietly in the background...
     
  5. JEDIMind

    JEDIMind Black Knight
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    Portal chambers only worked when pop was low and everyone had more then one holding. How good would portal chambers work if the game was like old Darkfall? No one had 2 holdings to even port between..You can't see how portal chambers could be pointless in this game?
     
  6. Scrapnotcrap

    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
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    And no compensation.

    All honnest players deserve atleast 60k up to 100k imo.

    I've lost a radian steel, 60k and a q5 bag from pvp.
     
  7. Nat

    Nat Shadow Knight
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    Even more reason to siege sounds good sign me up.
     
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  8. Sero

    Sero Menhir Sentinal
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    Sounds like alliances need to be made, and politics to be played. Sounds like if the population was like it was at launch, fast travel wouldn't even be an issue seeing as how there would be people to fight, kill, farm, and sell everything, everywhere, all the time.

    But it isn't, is it? And it never will be, because DFO Launch population was all hype, until the brokenness of the game started to set in, and people realized they didn't pay for something they actually wanted, until you were left with the late 2010/2011 population.

    But again, an argument made off of flawed logic, seeing as how portal chambers in holdings wouldn't take anything away, and would only add to the political and conquest game, where as runebooks only take away from conquest, take away from politics, take away from traders, take away from farmers, just to give a handful of solo players access to farm whatever they want, bind wherever they want, without having to actually interact with the game world. Let's not forget that runes already existed in the game to allow for solo/small groups to get around (but were nothing like DFO due to the terrible drop rate change, bad decision again, but easily reversible.), and the use of other people's portal chambers is a thing.

    Terrible design for the world of Darkfall.
     
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  9. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    Maybe for some people but we will have to disagree overall, I play ESO also and people play that game non stop even in between the expansions and dlc, they do not stop playing until the next one pops up they just play and have fun. ROA is not ESO not really close even but it still goes along with an mmo being more static more long term vs a game that you have to start over on frequently and even the expansion for df1 not much changed we still did the same things we just had some new stuff to look at/do while we did them.
    ROA def. needs something to retain long term subs or actives it is probably the single biggest thing the game is lacking. I think it can be done at least to a point fairly easy but they always overthink the shit out of it then spend months changing shit only to undo or change it again. Do the simple things first.
    RARE ITEMS that you piece together over time if the arena thing is a must and I am totally against it but make it so you can acquire a special set of gear that you do not lose and can only be used in arena games + add a currency you can receive while doing the arena.
    Make the gear something that you have to do on your own and takes time to get even if it takes months for some people it gives them a solid reason to keep logging in + they can do other shit while in that process.
    Add new sets with slight but noticeable differences, even some of the difference is color and design(reskin) tons of people like that sort of thing, but starting over every few months just means people care less about the game because they cannot attach themselves to the character or to possessions in the game since it will just be deleted anyways. It takes away from what an mmo should be, the ones that do well (wow, ESO etc..) would never delete and start over.

    So many better ideas to make all play styles happy and some of them (on paper) sound stupid easy and in my opinion are much better options than a relaunch.
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    Doesn't change the fact that it is a quality of life type of thing and as it is now runebook don't put you inside a city they can be made to not work anywhere near cities but the value of a player being able ( that doesn't own or access to a city) is MASSIVE it saves him so much time and allows him to play the game the way he wants rather than to be forced to play the same as you.
    Options believe it or not is what makes some MMO work and other barely get by and having them as an option in this game is a good idea.
     
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    If the portal system was not trash I can see maybe but all those things you said it hurts its an opinion...I find it that runebooks help get to farming spots and helps with trades...I use like 20 runes a day...running all over the map killing mobs and doing maps..that's interacting with the game...at least interacting more with the game then sitting in your city watching system and porting over when someone enters.
     
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    The portal system was a great idea just not planned out well enough. It can be fixed.
     
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  12. Kylock Linoge

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    I don't think rune books are a bad thing, I just hate how they were implemented.

    For a game having no content, it should've been a no brainer to make runebooks a rare mob drop, or more uncommon. Could've even made them craftable with the mats being like 50 flatsedge or something.

    Also the runestones used for the books could be different and more expensive/rare - providing something else to do.


    Honestly I think there should be a wipe when the game is in a more polished state. People have got rich off of many things that have since been changed, and I'll bet there have been multiple others that have benefited from dupes/glitches and not reported it.

    I've only been resubbed for a week and everyone I've seen is rolling around in infernal/dragon & high end weapons/staves with q5 enchants - even the shitty players. The economy is complete shit. Combat is also garbage.
     
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  13. Chantree

    Chantree Dire Zombie
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    Personally I think rune books were a great addition.
    Game needs rankings and pvp content that works with the rankings.

    Arena
    Que up vcp's 1v1, 3v3, 5v5
     
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    You talk about how rune books allow you to port from bank to your spot and recall back to your bank, but the only use for a portal chamber is to hop over to an empty holding when someone hits system?

    If they didn't get rid of portal chambers and nerf rune drops, there would be no need for runebooks. It was wasted dev time, literally running in circles to accomplish something that was already being accomplished.

    Kinda like this whole balancing act going on with combat changes. Attempting to accomplish something that was already there.

    Portal Chambers:
    - Reason to Siege
    - Reason to form alliances/play politics
    - Leads to Increased territorial conflict

    Runebooks:
    - less reason to siege
    - less reason to own a holding

    Both:
    - Allow quick travel

    How have runebooks been beneficial except for allowing SOLO players to get around the map without having to engage in the community? (Something they could have already done, albeit not as efficiently, before with regular rune marking.)

    If you can't see what's wrong with them, then I don't know what to tell you except you're probably heavily biased as a solo player that doesn't want to deal with the MMO part of the game and wants to easily be able to do everything on his own.

    You got roped in at a bad time homie :(

    <3

    I mean, what is really wrong with it? The only thing I can think of, is you weren't allowed to port from one of your own holdings to your allies holding.

    Other than that: It was a siege target, it allowed defense of your territory, and when a clan wanted access to certain parts of the map, they had to either:

    - Siege for it
    - Ally for it

    The great part about sieging is your clan bustles with activity to farm gear and prepare to dominate. It increases gear turnover and gets the proverbial engine going to stockpile resources and prepare for war.

    Allies only last so long, and even then, not everyone is going to want to ally everyone else > Bigger alliances form, bigger battles occur, more recruitment necessary to fill your army.

    They're just a chain reaction of good game economics, where as runebooks circumvent the whole scenario and make everything easier/mundane.

    But you're right, there is always room for improvement, but you can't improve something if you just throw it in the garbage.
     
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  15. Kiyayne

    Kiyayne Goblin Shaman

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    I think the obvious solution is to make all darkfall gold run on a blockchain. Can't dupe on a blockchain
     
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  16. GranddaddyPurps

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    i want some free stuff for the time invested for this roll back, some serious tasks and progress was made for me.
    and for BPG to take away from us the community for what a few bad eggs did isnt right.

    give me my acres and mule fool!
    i refuse to be treated like a paying slave
     
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  17. Scrapnotcrap

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    That's because BB's and being naked or in shit gear is totally shit now. It's not that hard to get high-end gear now, but it doesn't mean the economy is shit. I worked hard for 2 days to get my q4 staves and q4 infernal helmets and i was lucky enough to find and kill a player in q5 bag until it all got wiped.
    The player i looted in q5 bag got downgraded to a q3, boomstick plate mage bag for the next vcp's.

    The ppl you often see in q5 bags are probably the players who just wear them for show or pve.

    In a fewer wods, if you don't have high end gear, atleast q4 helms, q4 staves, you can be in trouble.

    Combat is not garbage, but there's less variety. There's no longer a in-between mages & heavy. It's one extreme to the other now and heavies are really not that great in 1on1 now that impulse can easily keep you away from a melee pusher.
     
  18. Johhny Mad Dog

    Johhny Mad Dog Celestial

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    That's cool and all but Runebooks is not going to magically turn the population up. Better spend that attention and energy on something else insteado of getting tunnel vision.

    Lets revert these stupid combat changes so the pop goes up and current players we had come back ;)

    After that focus on getting new players
     
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  19. BumpyKnuckles

    BumpyKnuckles Dire Zombie

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    Combat IS garbage!

    Also...fuck Dupefiance!
     
  20. Methodico

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    My friends didn't play because of the difficulty to understand everything, then grind and then they have to train how to pvp, too much time for an old game. I think that this game need to be semplified in terms of binds and equip, make enchanting only for pve if you want to leave it like this.
     
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