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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MWTaylor, 17 September 2018.
Wasn't the most recent post about what the community wanted - not you(BPG)? I'm confused now.
They don't know what they actually want or what they've said. Keep up now
Welp, you guys are going full AV troll mode at this point. RIP.
The part that makes it confusing is who people think is “the community“. Most people tend to not notice objective views and only notice those that Agee which is why we are implementing the voting system. That way we can all see where the opinions lie.
There have already been multiple community polls that addressed what the "community" has asked though. I believe one had over 100 votes and was 75% in favor of reverting changes? I may be wrong, but either way, there is a strong sentiment that the combat changes were entirely unnecessary, implemented too quickly, and are unbalanced. That's not opinion - it's objectively true.
You realize 100 people voted in this poll? Our roadmap voting has over 25% of the votes out of thousands for the perk system which was our initial idea to add diversity.
Combat is not going to get fully reverted, people don't even want that. We have people saying 'Revert combat but no buffs', 'Revert combat but keep back hit reduction'. The facts are there are good changes that have been made with the combat changes and some bad ones which we will work to make right.
I can almost guarantee you that if you start a community poll, then the requested features to stay after reverting combat would be: Keep back damage reduction, re-introduce buff others(with severely limited magnitude), and keep self-buffs removed.
It isn't hard to know what this "community" wants.
Personally, I'd like destro/mk back because I've had time to play the new patch long enough to know which combat was more skillful/rewarding/fun for me. (Though, I don't know if it would be a community wide consensus, so I've left that out - I also like Field Aoes being tied to WoF, but that's another one that I don't know the community sentiment.)
That's fine and dandy... You guys didn't do a perk system so your point is dumb. You just fucked combat in the ass. If the code is simple, which it should be, reverting takes 2 sec and then you can mess with it and perfect it if you decide to do so.
You guys can do whatever you want I don't really care I'm enjoying Shadowbane. If it get reverted I'll be back 100%, if not I'll just wait and see. But if you keep messing with the stuff that the people who are currently playing actually like, you will kill off current population and when/if new players come the game will be so dead they will give up as they won't want to waste their time. You HAVE to have the current players still invested if you even want a decent chance of gaining more players.
combat is in a bad shape i agree..
half baked changes to the combat and leave it broken for month's is not a very good decision..
suggest revert it back and implement combat changes as a whole..
Currenty combat aint fun
While I disagree with changing it in the first place, I don't see a reason to not do this. Leaving it where it is right now is just poop haha.
For the most part yes. There are other pieces that were changed that probably take precedence like staff magnitude and armor protection that should be looked at or reverted.
For buff others I have some ideas that I want to present, some from the community some from members, that offer the opportunity without everyone always having access at all times. That’s where voting and discussion will come in handy.
The encumbrance changes need some love, but have to consider new light armors and allowing for different play styles than were previously available.
Some ideas for r90s and field aoes that will go to vote.
So, looks like you want to change some things back or at least look into them or revert like what u said on mag and Armour good love it, for the buff others I will wait to see what you have to say, same with encumbrance, I'm confused tho cause in earlier post you are against reverting or going back to the old combat, but what you say now seems other wise, I think that there seems to be miscommunications, I like your thoughts in this post, seems like you are looking at the things we do want change/reverted/looked into. Looking forward to moving forward.
There a big difference between “revert combat” and “look at each piece to decide what happens” we won’t be reverting, but if some pieces are better the old way then so be it. A complete revert, which is what “revert combat “ means is silly when a lot of it was good or in the right direction.
That's good to know, just the way you were talking seemed Like none of the old combat would be changed back at all PERIOD end discussion here, but glad to see that's not the case.
I want to express how fantastic it is that normal maps are being inplemented and new tools utilized to introduce new objects/animations.
Gfx are the #1 thing holding this game back! Cant wait to breakout blender.
Whatever voting or poll you do it MUST MUST MUST be to all subscribers, both current and former in addition to the forum. I would suggest some kind of survey monkey that gets emailed, and not just a forum post. Most people can't be bothered dealing with forums, clicking a link in an email they will do though. Hell, if you really want a good turn out, throw people a bone and offer a day or two of sub time for their participation.
Please don't let decisions be solely driven by the people who frequent the forum, that has not worked twice in the past already.
We have no intention of that being the case.
The initial polls for the first few community patches will be utilizing rankit.vote which allows for people to prioritize what they deem most important. We will not only post these on the forums and on Discord, but will put them on Twitter, Facebook and add them into newsletters.
The 100 people who voted in the poll were probably the 100 people left after the patch. The rest of those people who voted on your road map were probably done and gone before you even dropped that half assed patch.
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Kilrain usually communicates in absolutes. He hasn't quite figured out PR talk yet.
this is getting sad
the game got super low pop cause u guys only added champion spawn has content
BPG did an amazing job on the market and some tweak, but deep down a player log in whit nothing else to do besides farming mobs or do villages.
2 years..... it's like a bad dream and BPG don't wanna wake up.
u guys look more confused than last year.
and now u want us to vote when we all know its gonna be 70% trollz that wanna see the game die.