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Discussion: Extended Downtime on Sept 1st

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MWTaylor, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Uncle Jo

    Uncle Jo Goblin Shaman
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    Scale village cap rewards with the value of the gear worn by the capturer.

    edit* With the new weapon damage changes, this incentivizes people to bring out better gear to villages even if it doesn't do as much damage as it did before.
     
  2. Statusquo

    Statusquo Goblin Warlord
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    that might be a little hard to do but you could make it that the longer a VCP is being fought over the better the reward is at the end capping out at a certain point. like if you get in uncontested you get XXX gold plus mats plus some bonus but the longer the fight takes of people trying to cap the gold could increase and the amount of bonus stuff can increase capping out after like 30 minutes of fighting
     
  3. Cincere

    Cincere Dire Zombie
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    WHY aren't they bringing better gear now?
     
  4. Uncle Jo

    Uncle Jo Goblin Shaman
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    Because there's no incentive to do so, only the risk of losing gear.

    If village rewards scale with the gear worn by the capturer, not only will people bring better gear to villages, but *more* people will come to villages (in better gear, too) because villages have become doubly incentivizing - scaling rewards from capture, higher rewards from killing other players attempting to do so.
     
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  5. Methodico

    Methodico Winterbound

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    when village is open for capture, some random gates (visible on map) spawn in Agon to help people to arrive near village zone
     
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  6. Cincere

    Cincere Dire Zombie
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    Sounds great.. but with no one playing... then its just a single guy in killer gear getting killer loot... for nada. You cant make a change like that until you have population to keep that said player and others from just filling up their bank TOO quickly. Kinda like how vets fill up their bank with tons of gear they never fear of losing... Kinda like how jtmike in another thread has mentioned he goes and caps the villages nekkid no problem at all.. ect. Just like when we had a group of 3 with a battlehorn filling up our banks killing devils... ect.
     
  7. Shivs

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    Most villages only attract 1 naked or at most, a robed guy, so hardly worth a party of 4 or 6 going any further than a village close to there bind.

    The low population, the portal system, the poor rewards, all have a downward spiral effect on the use of villages.

    Could have been different if every party member who hit over a certain damage got a rare ore or two guaranteed, then you would have seen larger groups every time they popped.
     
  8. Cincere

    Cincere Dire Zombie
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    EXACTLY .. risk/reward is SHIT in this game.
     
  9. Uncle Jo

    Uncle Jo Goblin Shaman
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    This incentivizes new players to cap villages much more than it does vets. With the gear changes, newer players risk next to nothing in bringing out an entry-level, PvP viable bag. On top of that, higher-level gear is no longer much better than entry-level gear, so newer players stand even more of a chance.

    With the value of gear being more important for capturing villages (an active activity leading to PvP) than for actual PvP itself, everyone is much more incentivized to come out to villages now: newer players, because gear disparity has been super narrowed, there's nowhere to go but up, and because it's a fairly low-risk and easy to access intro to PvP; and everyone else because they know PvP will come from the new incentives.
     
  10. Cincere

    Cincere Dire Zombie
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    One good vet in high end gear will rip a whole group of 10 new players in mediocre gear. A new player in this game cant just GET good gear. A vet in this full loot game will camp the hell out of a village just to kill the players in good gear or not. PERIOD Just for the lulz.
     
  11. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    So no more solo capping.
     
  12. Cincere

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    Like you said yourself.. the risk of losing gear on the one end.. no risk on the other. Full loot problems.
     
  13. Uncle Jo

    Uncle Jo Goblin Shaman
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    This will be less true after this patch. All weapons R70 and below will have a major decrease in damage difference between weapon rank.

    Given that, and the recent harvesting changes, an R40 gear bag not only is super cheap now, but it will soon be a more than viable option for PvP. Newer players will see they have next to nothing to lose and everything to gain by attending villages. If nothing else, they'll learn how to fight.
     
  14. Cincere

    Cincere Dire Zombie
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    A vet in robes could kill a full group of new players with regs a blackbolt and a r20 bow... that shit is not gonna help. We will see...
     
  15. Uncle Jo

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    A vet won't come to a village cap in that set up with my suggestions, because he'll get shit rewards from capping the village and won't want the gear new players bring.
     
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    It's still possible.
     
  17. FilthyIrishman

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    This is great and all but when are we adding more instant travel???? Last siege we couldnt even get our force back because people forgot to bind...

    5-10 mins anywhere in the map please thanks! Also make holdings great again ..
     
  18. aaraym

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    It sounds interesting. I think I prefer it over the current system.

    How long do you have to sit on all three control points until you received enough points?

    Also, What if you are solo? Does it require three people?
    --- Post updated ---
    The fix for risk VS rewards old or new system:

    Old system:

    Make the gear you are wearing deter how much damage you do on the VCP. So, better gear means it goes down faster.

    New system:

    Make the gear you are wearing allow you to get more points faster when in the control area.
    --- Post updated ---
    How would that work? Please, explain.
     
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  19. quietnoobz

    quietnoobz Chosen of Khamset

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    can i farm globules and wear gauntlets at the VCP?
     
  20. MerleisAirdburne

    MerleisAirdburne Black Knight
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    Great addition BPG. Can't wait to get back out in the world and pvp with my new friends

    @Squanto @Animal @Juicy let's fucking gooooo!
     
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