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Patch Notes Discussion: Freemium Soft Launch - February 20th, 2019

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Neilk, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. Korag

    Korag Evil Eye
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    does not matter how fast skill gains are for a newb they will be ganked. Skills even at slower pace are still going to be stupid fast. The curve comes in when learning how to use those skills.
     
  2. quietnoobz

    quietnoobz Chosen of Khamset

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    afraid to log in. afraid 500 bank space will delete my bank. afraid implemented incorrectly. let me know when safe, thanks! i have 5gtts on standby for fixes. (i've been effed before)
     
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  3. Rimamok

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    Difference in skill gains is dumb as hell.

    Gains will be stupid fast either way, so no ACTUAL impact on combat.

    And yet new players ALWAYS look for something to blame their losses, other than player skill. So they’ll blame leveling speed, claim P2W, and quit.

    Remove anything that could be even be PERCEIVED as P2W.

    The rest of it I mostly like.
     
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  4. Korag

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    if what ya say is true then they would find an excuse regardless of the leveling speeds right? so in the end it does not hurt anything.
     
  5. KingLlama

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    They have been working on a new shader. The second sword is actually going to have the shader used ingame soon so it has taken sometime to actually get the normal maps working for darkfalls wonderful engine. I don't know the exact timing because I'm just a 3d guy.
     
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  6. laciga

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    Its not an excuse, it will literally make then not even log in the first time. So yeah feel free, to "blame" the user but the reality is you already lost that user. So yeah , ... . If the freemium model poses an obstacle to get started, then its not doing what its supposed to.
     
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  7. JEDIMind

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    The bank space sucks.. I can see that being a problem.
    But lets be real...this company has to make money to survive.
    If there were not features that make you want to spend 10 bucks then its fail.

    I'm thinking of Albion and how harsher their leveling system is without the sub and people still have no problem with it. We need stuff to encourage people to sub.

    I dont feel like this hurts the new player base. All we need is people to BE ABLE to TRY the game for free. If they like it they will sub. Isnt that the point? So easy to level its a joke anyways..
     
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  8. Quin Tessence

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    --- Post updated ---
    By the way you should probably be aware that the moment I got my items under 500 my item restriction was complete deleted so I now have unlimited bank space or possible just 2000, I don't have that many items to test it.
     
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  9. Methodico

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    I think that they have to push to skins and shop, and a really good freemium model, I think that slow skilling and no bank space will push people away.
     
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    The leveling is not slow tho, understand its slower then plat but in reality people can easily play this game for free and level fine. If people like the game they fork up the 10 bucks with out thinking to level faster...we NEED people to fork over that money...and this is legit the best way. Think if you were running this business...doesnt take much sense to understand everyone wants max chars as soon as possible and money is needed to keep this project going.This is probably the one thing that will make people fork over cash ( besides skins ) to keep this game afloat.

    We need marketing now.
     
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  11. Korag

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    yes being able to log in without any upfront money is such a devastating obstacle as opposed to having to pay to play from the start
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    it is not slow leveling, look at it from another view.
    It is faster leveling if you have a sub.
    Glass half full bro
     
  12. Janosh

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    With or without freemium game is still only going to have short term goals and even if they pay for Premium they will realise that there is nothing to do for them but pvp.
     
  13. Dotix

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    This is 500% correct. Nobody is gonna come back and try to play free when you are FORCED To purchase a sub to even bank a single item(with or without a present stack)

    I know multiple people that are now confirmed never coming back to the game so thanks for that one...
     
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  14. Methodico

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    If they do many armors/weapon/mounts/house/dye cool skins every month they will make more money like every game do now. If someone play and like the game belive me he will spend money for cool skins! People will spend more than 10 euro for month expecially in a open world sandbox game.
     
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    - game is over 10 years old
    - visuals are crap for 2019 standarts
    - world feels empty @ start
    - low population
    - new players are confused @ start; dont know where to go or what do to
    - no marketing or talk on the webz about this game.


    let's face it here guys.. by asking money for this game in some sort of subscription or what so ever is never gonna work if you want to attract new people to this game.

    ive been telling this from the start with the first thread about this topic.

    We have like what?1k followers/players for darkfall. which BPG complete ignores all the time.

    ban/kicks from discord and/or removing forums post when feedback is given.

    Why? i have no idea. turning your back and last players is not so smart if you ask me..


    Either way this model is a waiste of time like previeus said... this is not going to get more players into the game..

    Sollution :

    go complete F2P and let the server run on donations by the remaining players who are willing to to keep this server alive.

    the QOL changes that were made @ the start we just awesome.. from that point it went downhill..
     
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  16. RagnarokDel

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    Hey, that's power. Never sell power.


    Why I still have to link to this youtube videos 7 years later is beyond me.
     
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    still doesn't work and no fix from neilk for me atleast.

    subbed and says 1900/2000 space but cant put anything in, and still 300 weight.
     
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  18. AbyssWalker

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    you are fooled donkey.
    you dont need more than 500 bank space and 300 weight to play comfortable at full power.
     
  19. Not_Primetime

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    And it's obvious no one tests this stuff either. Soft launch apparently means players get to test there implementation YEAH!. They haven't fixed a lot of the Global wallet issues that I reported about year ago. Why I'm I still here?
     
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  20. DeadlyHit

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    Put launched game back into beta, or just call it a soft launch quality oh and charge people for the pleasure with certain people not having use of the features.
     
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