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Discussion: Introducing Agon Metrics

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MWTaylor, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. KingLlama

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    Awesome idea :D i'm excited for this!
     
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  2. Fishsauce

    Fishsauce Goblin Shaman

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    The player statistics, you're basically copying Albion Killboard... This heat map is actually pretty cool though and might bring back some people. I would shorten the delay to 10-15 minutes and see how it goes. With the population being so low, what do you have to lose.
     
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  3. Sero

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    Are they really copying albion, pretty sure eve has killboards, pretty sure other games have them as well.

    Eve killboards should also be the endgame here, depicting gear, parties involved, damage, healing, etc.
     
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  4. Methodico

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    Plese make a DUEL OPTION, so kill score is only for world pvp and not for duels. Maybe make a buff that start when you choose duel option with half reagent cost or zero reagent cost.
    Obviously you can do damage only vs the other player that accept duel, then a area of duel, if you go out duel finish and a option to close duel.
     
  5. Andrew

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    This is just an initial rollout of the base mechanics. Having this on the website allows us to evolve it easily as there's no concern on FPS issues or game GUI challenges. We can certainly increase the frequency of update but wanted to do a longer delay initially. Right now it serves as more of a day in review to see generally where PvP is happening instead of finding current fights. There is a concern on sieges being shown on here which will limit the heat map to always have some delay unless we filter those deaths out. Plenty of options this is just a start to this, we love stats and we know you guys do to :).

    We will be adding more functionality here such as more leaderboards and statistics. Also we will be implementing a series of filters with the data to ensure it's more accurate and not giving false positives for things like duels. The plan ultimately once we have it fully fleshed out is to add some of it in game as well as have weekly and monthly standings with rewards for top positions in a number of categories.

    Village patch is being deployed on the public test server and once it looks good we'll announce it and open it up to test it out. There's a few villages ready and bear in mind we pushed this village build out as soon as we had a working version so you guys can play test it early. We are still 1-2 weeks out on this patch.

    Also champion loot changes may not make it in as there's additional bugs we need to address there and visual issues with the new r70 weapons which may not make it in this patch. It's on the borderline right now to make it in time but worst case we are planning a "mini-patch" after this one to address a few pressing bugs and put in a few things we wanted for this patch that we cut as we were feature creeping :).
     
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  6. MikeJT

    MikeJT Black Knight
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    Planetside 2 has a similar kill board which predates Albion by 6 years. Plenty of games had similar features in the past.

    Can hardly call it copying Albion.
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    This.

    Just make it exclude green-on-green.

    Regs cost for duels should always remain though. Training to get better is part of the game.
     
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  7. NonFactor

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    perfect
    i love u
    remove clannies and allies kills.

    god bless canada.
     
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    the only logic is that it would show and be track able as to where fights happen on a regular basis.
    So you know where the fights are (avg) on a daily basis, I mean it make sense but seems like a waste of time if hardly anyone is even playing the game
    That is not new content, that is old content being changed again and still no new content being added.
     
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  9. The Cannibal

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    World heat map showcasing where PvP activity has been occurring (information delayed by 24 hours)

    Change the delay to 10-15 minutes and this will be something of value.
     
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  10. kilrain

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    This.
     
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  11. gosti

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    Ppl arent leaving because of pvp related stuff. Anything not related to PvP soon?
     
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  12. The Cannibal

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    Seem like no.

    Is it too much to ask for rewarding, less boring pve?
     
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    The reason people give for leaving changes daily.
     
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    No they don't change, perhaps more are added to the list but one constant has been "new" content and improved pve They added champ spawns but made it so that they were stupid hard to do so only a few after a few months were even getting done. We asked for UO like champ spawns something worth doing that people would check to find pvp and the rewards would be worth having, not gold or any of that kind of crap but actual fluff items that people would have a reason to collect.
    More action on the water has been asked for and suggested
    Factions has been asked for and suggested.
    None of the things that add variety or improved pve or just having different choices of things to do have been added they just keep changing shit they did that wasn't content and never making any progress towards the reason people are not logging in. Village changed again? really maybe beating a dead horse isn't going to help. 4th or 5th time?? I cant member but villages aint going to keep people playing or bring them back and champ spawns by them selves without a serious over hall is not going to help either.
     
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  15. The Red King

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    The Heat Map should be 10 - 20 minutes max and allied / clan kills need to be removed from the heat map and the kill log.
     
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    That's simply not enough time when people could be having a fight that lasts up to 30 minutes.

    24 hours is maybe a bit much but it should be at least 6 hours.

    We don't need the entire server converging on one place because PvP happened.
     
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    It's cool that this is being worked on. Any ETA on shark mounts?

    -edit: not to sound critical, it is a good feature, which is not necessarily "in game" and also a band-aid to the population decline. Please, for the love of god, advertise and make real sandbox features to get people into the game,
     
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  18. Dixie Normus

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    I was against taking racial wars out from the beginning. It definitely shouldn't have been done until factions were in. This alone was content galore.
     
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    I don't think satellites existed in Agon. I don't want big brother watching me.

    When someone is pveing do they want it announced?

    On a serious note. This is using resources to create when there are more important things to work on.
     
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    It's a solid tool (needs to be in game and could still use some improvement though), that a PVP game like Darkfall needs.

    Name something more important they should be working on if you think this was a waste of time...
     
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