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Discussion in 'Game Design Discussion' started by Itwas Luck, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. Itwas Luck

    Itwas Luck Gravelord

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    Please move this to greater magic. In terms of PvP balance, it makes no sense that all playstyles don't have access to this spell. If you're caugh on an island or in the water as a destroyer and are in a situation that you need to escape, you're essentially guaranteed to die. Conversely, if you're a destroyer trying to kill a mage in the water or the land, the mage is almost guaranteed to be able to escape every single time.
     
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  2. YapYapYap

    YapYapYap Goblin Shaman

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    100% agree wouldn't throw of the balance too much
    - Hollow Choir
     
  3. Jack_Bauer

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    Give everyone mage killer and destro and all spells as well while you are at it.
     
  4. Itwas Luck

    Itwas Luck Gravelord

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    explosion being given to destroyers wouldn't affect land combat. as a mage, would you ever use explosion on land without stormblast? explosion really would only impact water combat, but you're too dumb to realize that I guess? Or do you think that destroyers actually aren't underpowered in water combat? destroyer upgrade is essentially irrelevant in water combat btw
     
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  5. JasperHawkins

    JasperHawkins Celestial
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    Guy who is destro but made his name from running away and/or resetting. Checks out.
     
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  6. Itwas Luck

    Itwas Luck Gravelord

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    guy who was never good enough to realize resetting has always been an integral part of any top player's game, and a guy who is also too low iq to actually come up with a response as to why explosion shouldn't be accessible to all, as far as balance goes.
     
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    Made it pretty clear I understand resetting by commenting on resetting... If you are looking to crutch on something I could probably give you some tips, explosion isn't going to happen.

    Jman
     
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  8. Itwas Luck

    Itwas Luck Gravelord

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    you "understand resetting". What does that even mean? lmao. I'm not arguing that you don't understand the concept of resetting. Your reading comprehension is lacking man. re-read what I posted, slowly this time.
     
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    zzz
     
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  10. Inkarnation

    Inkarnation Frostjarl
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    As a destro, i cant chase mages in water, shits lame, i agree with this thread

    so hes a good player and hes knowledgeable about the subject? wow, i really shouldnt listen to this guys opinion, theres no way he has a good point
    as usual, youre bringing so much to the discussion jman, thanks alot
     
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  11. Blaze

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    fine by me, it's w/e tbh begone into impulse in water op
     
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  12. JasperHawkins

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    So what you're saying is that a destro with almost guaranteed higher protections and almost guaranteed to have a way way better bow should be able to run just as fast as a mage in water? Seems balanced.
     
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    And will be doing extra damage to you in the back while you are trying to cast with staff out. Great idea
     
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  14. Itwas Luck

    Itwas Luck Gravelord

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    and when I give my back to a mage in a water fight, I can be come hithered. A mage also has access to other buffs which are huge in water combat. A mage still has wof which slightly increases water movement ability. A mage also heals marginally more efficiently.


    no one uses arrow protection jewelery anymore since it was separated from piercing protection. In two weeks of playing, I've looted one arrow protection jewelry. A destroyer in fp vs a mage in fp with self buffs should have very similar arrow protections, shouldn't they? I'm not logged in but I'll check later.

    edit: Destroyers in fp vs a buffed bone/fp mage have an advantage of about .96 extra arrow protections lol
     
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  15. Garou

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    Give destros mobility, but make them use more stats. Its kind of ridiculous how strong they are in group fights now because they literally dont run out of stats ever, while being hard to burst and doing good dps.(in the right hands ofcourse)
     
  16. Itwas Luck

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    yeah, I'm definitely against the stam change. It's one of many changes that have made the game feel extremely dumbed down. I could list multiple combat changes that have severely lowered the skill ceiling and raised the skill floor, but this one might be near the top of the list.
     
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    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
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    I think destro's need a spell to move up the portal chambers. A mage can just stormblast on top and heal-up to full infinitely.
    We just don't do it in duels...

    Usually, a mage has to stormblast+comehilther or begone to knock a mage off that platform.

    I also think piercing prot should protect from arrows when mages got stone-skin back. Or earings must become enhance-able.
     
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  18. clyde frog

    clyde frog Skeleton Archer
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    Just give destro stormblast and explosion easy solution
     
  19. Battle Smurf

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    You're biased AF, balance has already been tipped way too much in Destroyers favor too much in RoA
     
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  20. HeganHatsumo

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    ill 1v1 water fight you mage vs destro for 100k you playing mage