Welcome to the Rise of Agon Community

Create an account today to engage in discussions and community events on the Rise of Agon forums.

Full revert to pre combat changes

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Grimtide, Dec 22, 2018.

?

FULL Revert, not half measure

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Yes but keep this feature in (explain below)

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Leopold Stotch

    Leopold Stotch Dire Zombie
    Wealthy Loyal Hero

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    210
    I would be okay with a full revert of combat if:

    1. Self buffs are removed or condensed into less spells.

    2. Buff other spells like range/melee haste remain longer range/shorter duration

    A question I have would be what would happen to staff crafting? I feel like when staff crafting was introduced, it changed a fair amount of things. Would we be keeping the staff crafting profession/changes when we revert?
     
    Billy Lee and Copperfield like this.
  2. Grimtide

    Grimtide Evil Eye
    Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    5,617
    Likes Received:
    7,539
    Buff others were like that pre big combat changes and staffs were actually in a better spot too.
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
  3. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    Am I the only one that thinks removing self buffs is a really fuckin good idea?
     
    RoD likes this.
  4. chad

    chad Infernal
    Loyal Hero

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    562
    Likes Received:
    1,974
    Maybe you should stop posting until you log in.
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
    Uncle Jo, Scrubby Bear, Sique and 2 others like this.
  5. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    I’ve been playing, haha. The removal of buffs is an incredible change. What a waste of time buffing before every fight. Everyone rolled the same buffs anyway lol.

    Definitely a change for the better.
     
    Mega, Battle Smurf and RoD like this.
  6. Copperfield

    Copperfield Black Knight
    Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2015
    Messages:
    1,020
    Likes Received:
    546
    its easier to revert back to old df1 combat and then adjust things like selfbuffs.

    - revert
    - polls about small changes
    - patch

    3 simple steps
     
  7. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    I understand what you are saying, but I personally think that would be a pointless exercise. In my opinion the changes implemented by BPG to date are good changes, and are all in the best interest of combat. From my point of view, just because a number of veterans on the forums don’t agree with all of the changes that shouldn’t be a reason to revert. I think BPG know what they’re doing.
     
  8. kinglear

    kinglear Black Knight

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2017
    Messages:
    1,223
    Likes Received:
    1,219
    and we understand what youre saying, we just think its erong. We think BPG have proven they have no idea what they’re doing.
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
    Scrubby Bear, Sique and Scrapnotcrap like this.
  9. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    BPG must be doing something right for the game to still be going now. Population is looking relatively healthy, and generally I believe people are optimistic about future population. Travel changes have been good. Quality of life changes have been excellent. Resource farming changes have been good. Just because in your opinion the combat changes aren’t in the right direction, that doesn’t mean BPG have no idea what they’re doing.
     
    Korag likes this.
  10. kinglear

    kinglear Black Knight

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2017
    Messages:
    1,223
    Likes Received:
    1,219
    Travel changes have strong mixed opinions, farming changes are seen negatively, combat changes are almost universally regarded as negative, theres a trend. Pop is healthy because theres something to do for the time being (server war), but that literally only exists because so many people came back when they claimed they would revert combat, but post-poll (the one that told us our jesus patch was ganna be needles and more bow damage) pop started dipping again

    But whatever, im glad mr leo woods is having a blast because you'll never get to experience the new combat with needles spam and destros running around unkillable with indestructible when the patch hits
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
  11. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    Personally, I don’t care too much about the detail of the changes. That isn’t my first priority, and it shouldn’t be yours or anyone else’s either. I care about the impact on the population that the changes have. I know you’re talking about the server war as the ‘sole’ force behind the population growth, however I’m sure you know yourself Mr Lear that the server war isn’t the only driving force behind the population increase.

    If I’m seeing a positive and stable influx of players in direct correlation to the release of recent patches and changes then, to me, that is a clear indication that the implemented changes are of good doing.

    I mean, the fact BPG are actually communicating frequently with the community is a good sign? Right? Definitely more than what previous companies’ of Darkfall renditions offered us.

    I think we should be thankful that BPG seem to be active and actually have a direction for our dearly loved game.
     
    Korag likes this.
  12. Scrapnotcrap

    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
    Hero

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2015
    Messages:
    2,138
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    @Leo Woods pm me when you become open minded so that i can try harder to convince you about stuff. You like to reject every point that the vets make even when the majority of us have voted for stuff like ''revert combat''. You don't just go against a veteran's opinion, you go against a veteran's opinion backed by the ppl who understand it except you. You don't play and you think you are right.

    You think everything BPG have done is positive when it's the total opposite and i could explain you why from the very start.

    The only reason it looks good now, it's because of unpredictable event's such as DnD not being patched since July and the fact that the game is still free.

    I went from playing, farming everyday to crouching under a spider-tree waiting for a discord call for arms just to recall back in position to defend with 2 p-shards on me and a runebook. I just got my new keyboard and i can't even bother to get used to it on DF because i feel so demoralized about the recent patches.
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
    #92 Scrapnotcrap, Jan 2, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2019
  13. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    I’m the one that’s not open minded ? Hahahahahaha Hahahah Hahahah next joke bro.

    Also, next time you @ me, make sure you’re able to form a coherent sentence. Cheers.
     
  14. Scrapnotcrap

    Scrapnotcrap Eodrin
    Hero

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2015
    Messages:
    2,138
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    I give you my name. do you still want to duel me?
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
  15. Leo Woods

    Leo Woods Dire Zombie

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2015
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    89
    Of course I’ll duel you. Not entirely sure what that will achieve however?
     
  16. Volfen

    Volfen Infernal
    Loyal Legend

    Joined:
    May 6, 2016
    Messages:
    598
    Likes Received:
    629
    For what it's worth, this already happened in DFO (debuffing veilron golems with tarnish and using a blackbolt, for example).
     
  17. l0st exile

    l0st exile Crypt Guard

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2016
    Messages:
    198
    Likes Received:
    888
    lol bpg
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
  18. Fengor

    Fengor Obsidian Golem

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2015
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    5,929
    Remember that time BPG added content and didn’t touch combat and DF thrived?


    Ya me either
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature
    Copperfield, l0st exile and Kantor like this.
  19. prowess

    prowess Goblin Warrior
    Patron Benefactor Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2017
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    14
    Make self buffs last 4 hours. wait... just remove them and buff our characters appropriately
     
  20. kinglear

    kinglear Black Knight

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2017
    Messages:
    1,223
    Likes Received:
    1,219
    buff our non destro characters appropriately*
     
    Collapse Signature Expand Signature