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Goodbye Darkfall (emotional vid)

Discussion in 'Rise of Agon Videos' started by Fenrir Frauki, Dec 21, 2019.

  1. Funky zeit

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    Based fenrir.
     
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  2. Korag

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    I wont keep my thoughts to myself
    Game has gone to shit.. Rip Darkfall
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    damn welcome back to forums lol, how long was you banned?
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    loot is the only reason games like darkfall and albion succeed. UO got rid of it and while it might still exist it essentially went from strong pvp pop to life support. These type of games exist because they are not like EVERY OTHER FUCKING GAME currently available.
     
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    Yea fair enough
     
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    Im sure uo going into a playerbase decline had nothing to do with the 3d mmos being released like everquest,daoc.. and then i remember very well those games dying to the next big thing.. like wow
     
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    This is definitely revisionism btw. UO had far more players and better retention rates after Trammel that is fact.

    Also Albion has this exact same model of tiered zones like we just patched.
     
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    I met Richard Garriot at E3 one year and told him how pissed I was that he killed UO with Trammel. He said it was for the money. Way more newbies then pvpers.

    He showed me his pics from space too, was a cool a guy. I told him to buy Darkfall and he said wtf is Darkfall lol.
     
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    EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

    Albions yellow zone = no loot but flag PVP that you cannot avoid.

    Also, Albion's tiered system is very well laid out in terms of risk vs reward when it comes to material farming and GPH. Samething with EVE. The zones we have here could use some work on this end.
     
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  8. Neilk

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    I was going off https://wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Types_of_Zones

    "Players that are downed as a result of red-flagged PvP will only be "Knocked out," sending them to their knees, causing a 5% loss in the durability of gear and a 10% drop of stackable items"

    I've not played a lot of Albion so not up to date.

    Also I agree on our zones, we will be continuing to tweak them.
     
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  9. Sero

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    Maybe they changed it, I don't even remember durability when I played it its launch. I remember killing people in full loot zones and half the loot coming back trash, which was their form of a sink.

    *COUGH* *COUGH* DURABILITY LOSS ON GANK/DEATH *COUGH* *COUGH*
     
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    I am not sure why a hard hit to dura isn’t in already I mean come on... common sense.
     
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    Brother Jar and the other turd were so scared that they dont even chased you. lol
     
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    If you ask me, it had less to do with trammel and more to do with the introduction of more complex systems, skills, encounters, crafting systems, etc. High speed internet was becoming a thing and computers in general were more accessible than in the 90s. Not to mention, Age of Shadows (the intro of trammel) was probably their most advertised expansion. There's a lot of factors and I really wouldn't attribute success to trammel too heavily.
     
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    Retention rate went up after Trammel according to the people involved. Which helped tremendously i'm sure. I wouldn't compare what we have done to Trammel though it's quite different.

    https://www.engadget.com/2015/02/02/crowfalls-gordon-walton-on-how-trammel-impacted-classic-ultima/
     
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    This quote from the article says it all

    "rampant PvP was driving away over 70% of new players to UO"

     
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    You made a massive part of the map yellow zone where as barely 10% of Albion map is safe and it isnt just some giant safe yellow circle, you have to pass through red zones to go anywhere, barely any yellow zones and even in those, reds cannot be looted just the same as blue players so NO it is not just like Albion, it isnt even close.
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    yes cause UO was really good and well developed game. They had a flag system that was amazing unlike this one
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    They havent changed it, the removed almost all yellow zones, like 4 yellow zones per city area and it is still same flag system as red and black just minus the loot and it has always been no loot in yellow zones. The big difference is blue players cannot loot red players either so it is not some sort of unbalanced thing where some blue can attack a red and not risk anything when the red has to risk everything.. VERY big difference.
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    They havent changed it, the removed almost all yellow zones, like 4 yellow zones per city area and it is still same flag system as red and black just minus the loot and it has always been no loot in yellow zones. The big difference is blue players cannot loot red players either
    everquest came out shorty after UO and was a very very different game I am sure it made a difference all be it not much of one, the others would have been a bigger draw no doubt as at least they had somewhat respectable pvp.
     
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    The people developing that game now are role players and pvp is dead in that game..
    Out side the occasional fel house drop..
    Or the one or two at fel gate..
    Shits a joke..pixel hugging at its finest now.
    Rip
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    Chad knows his shit
     
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    Did you any your wife play OG Darkfall / in Carnage?
     
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  18. Slayven

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    Yep
     
  19. Marianna

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    It's Graktor homie, hope you guys are doing well. You still playing much?
     
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  20. Slayven

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    Sup big dog
    I have not been playing this game to much I may come back..you know I love the bang.
    Hope all is well with you to sir.