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Grinding for 1+ months and still not completely viable

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Dim Mok, Sep 27, 2016.

  1. Dim Mok

    Dim Mok Black Knight
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    In regards to Destro, I think I could have been viable in a month or less but in regards to becoming a mage I'm still not viable after 1+ months of grinding.

    I feel like my character has broken through a wall of some sort at 1+ months of grinding, and I've been throttling from casual 1-3 hours of grinding a day to hardcore 8 hours grinding while trying to run a clan. But I still don't feel completely viable. I feel that in one to two more weeks my character should be completely viable in PvP. This is after I've been given help from others hand outs and my own sweat and determination.

    So, all in all, it takes roughly 2 months to be a viable mage, I'm not even sure how long it would take to max out (possibly double the time ~4 months). Keep in mind I'm a vet and know exactly what to do, a new player will need to either have someone mentor them, finance them or read a guide that is provided to reach viability in the same time frame.

    Is this the time frame the devs have in mind for viability? I feel that viability should be one month tops as a casual, it shouldn't take this long to be viable. A big hold up is obtaining utility spells, if you don't have any movement spells the vets who do will run circles around you. These utility spells should be earned sooner, rather than later imo. Also, modifiers should level with the tree itself instead of individually to lessen the grind.

    What I'm hoping to get in the next week to make my character completely viable,

    1. Open necro tree and obtain eye rot and ray
    2. Get insect swarm from witchcraft
    3. Get stormblast, come hither from air tree
    4. Get r50, r90 and AoE from fire tree
    5. Get r90 from arcane or necro tree
    6. Get pungent mist and toxic rain from earth
    7. Get confusion from greater magic
    8. Get begone from greater magic
    9. Get icestorm from water
    10. Get the rest of buff others and buffs

    What I will still be missing:

    Archmage
    Tree modifiers at 100
    Intensify modifier on certain trees
    All spells at 50 or more

    My current stats:

    Str: 53
    Vit: 40
    Dex: 40
    Quickness: 53
    Int: 40
    Wisdom: 30

    Melee / Archery:

    Greatswords: 80+
    Greatsword Mastery: ~25

    Archery: ~88
    Sharpshooter: ~50
    Spirited Archer: ~50
    Veteran Archer: ~50

    Utility Spells Obtained:

    Launch: ~25
    Shrapnel: 1
    WoF: ~70
    Telekenisis: ~25

    Damage Spells Obtained:

    Rays: 3 (flame, ice, impale)
    Bolts: All bolts, minus necro

    Magic:

    Lesser: ~90
    Greater: ~70
    Witchcraft: ~40
    Spell chanting: ~50
    Arcane: ~50
    Air: ~10
    Fire: ~40
    Earth: ~50
    Water: ~25
     
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  2. Wes Furtive

    Wes Furtive Obsidian Golem
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    Mane you slow ;)
     
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  3. Ford Prefect

    Ford Prefect Frostjarl
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    You are slow as fuck dude. For someone that knows how darkfall works, I would guess you have been playing 7-10 hours a week for 4 weeks.
     
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  4. Dim Mok

    Dim Mok Black Knight
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    I don't have the luxury of going off on my own for hours on end, I have to show up to group events and organize. I also throttle between casual play hours and hardcore play hours. Every month for about a week I can't play at all and rely on meditation only. I'm just thinking of a new player in the same boat as me would take much longer without any guidance.
     
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    Ford Prefect Frostjarl
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    Fair enough, although if the poopsockers find it less easy to exploit/macro/CHEAT then they will likely not be as far ahead as you when launch comes around.
     
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  6. Invincible Execution

    Invincible Execution Varangian Warthane
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    Even 2 or 3 months is not a long time imo, the game could be out for many years if all goes well. You might feel the grind early on but I wouldn't want it to be any faster. I respect the difference of opinion though :)
     
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    streaml1ne Windlord
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    +1

    Agreed. 1 month would be too fast to me.
     
  8. LisaL

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    Yeah the grind is starting to wither away at the population, along with the fact there is nothing to do besides grind makes it much worse.
     
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  9. NonFactor

    NonFactor Forest Golem
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    Not trolling but i think ure doing something wrong.

    40 fire? Is like 30 min castinf firebolt...
     
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  10. Dim Mok

    Dim Mok Black Knight
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    Just want to make sure were all talking about the same thing, what I'm looking for is being viable in one month not a max character. It would be nice to have a character that has mobility, can drop confusions, has knockups, and r90's but is not max'd out, the max'n out could be the two to four month grind that people are looking for.
     
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    Invincible Execution Varangian Warthane
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    I think if people would meditate things other than attributes once in a while they'd be a lot happier. Attributes are a long and expensive process, magic schools and spells level up very fast. If you really want certain spells I don't think it hurts to meditate for a day or two for the important ones.
     
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    NonFactor Forest Golem
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    Dim, i started in the first day.. basically afk swimming for 2-3 days than get a trip to NY for 11 days.. returned in 08/23.

    Im not pvping or dueling, just grinding.

    Some days playing 4 hours, some days 2.

    I have:

    GS mastery 50
    Sharpshooter 50

    Lesser 100
    Greater 94
    Fire 100
    Earth 100
    Necro 80
    Spellchanting 85
    Witchcraft 55
    Air 70
    Arcane 50
    Water 47

    Archmage 72.
    And all atack spells above 50

    Stats:
    Str 62
    Vit 60
    Dex 41
    Quick 55
    Int 78
    Wis 45
     
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  13. Dim Mok

    Dim Mok Black Knight
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    So you're not playing the game, just grinding. That seems like a problem to me, the grind experience should be fun or sped up so viability is quick and people can fully experience the end game without feeling like they are behind.

    Think of the new player, he's going to want to explore and do things on his own terms. If the method for being viable in a month is to grind, grind, grind then you leave out these moments for exploration and self learning. It becomes this rat race to viability and max character where people can't slow down and enjoy the game. Just my two cents.
     
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    Lakisuria_Moonglade Varangian Warthane
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    Meditation went a really long way for my spells and such. Gathering isn't half bad if you do some daily as well. (I only recommend meditation up to 50 though at most which for most spells is up to 2 days if you aren't leveling it at all)

    I did it on schools too which ever so slightly eased the pain of leveling them. Every point you don't have to grind is worth it in my book.
     
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  15. NonFactor

    NonFactor Forest Golem
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    Yes. Ure right. Im just grinding like a turd.

    The thing annoys me is see ppl posting vids since week 2 with a maxxed toon.

    Its CLEARLY was built with exploits.
     
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  16. Dim Mok

    Dim Mok Black Knight
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    True, the exploited chars ruined it because now everyone feels they have to play catch up. When launch comes around, hopefully this will be gone and the rat race wont be as bad.
     
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    NonFactor Forest Golem
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    First easy fix: remove/rework bloodscar devil. (Only because its clearly retarded)
     
  18. BeatIt

    BeatIt Obsidian Golem
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    lolol

    game to hard yo
     
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  19. Sero

    Sero Gnoll Vilegaunt
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    Meditating any magic is a waste of time compared to stats. The only 2 magic schools you can justify meditating is spell chanting/witchcraft and both of those only to 50.

    The main problem with the grind has been stated over and over again. Casting the same spell 10000 times to get it to an acceptable level.

    You could throw in archmage being 75 int into that, and intensifies.

    If you didn't need to grind spells after grinding the school, time spent would be perfect. The only issue with this is economic with not as mich gold having to be put into character development
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    Also if you guys are looking for an example of a casual player to better accommodate the majority, Dim would be prime example.

    Hes so casual he resorted to calling grind sessions with me, "Uber's bootcamp" because im yelling at him to stop afking mid sessions :p
     
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  20. Super Star

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    All they have to do is make it so the devil absolutely destroys mounts. They dont need to rework the geometry at all there.
     
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