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In answer to the elites argument about needing more content

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Owyn Magnus, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Owyn Magnus

    Owyn Magnus Varangian Warthane

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    Made this post in another thread, but wanted to make sure you all read this.

    You guys say you want more content.

    There is content, elitists wrecked the content.

    Politics were killed, KILLED, by clans like Black Shields, DHW, TSL and others.

    Large group pvp was killed by them as well.

    Active city? Got 10-12 defending? Fuck that, you will get hit over and over and over again by guys like Skreww. They will hit your city until they wipe you, and they will keep doing it until you log off. They will keep coming every 15 minutes.

    Go out with a group of 15 clan mates, including a lot of newer players? Roll up onto a group of 3 elitists and this is what happens:

    1 - You win and prepare to get zerged on the forums.
    2 - You win but they begone off into the sunset, constantly resetting the fight until you lose. Then welcome to youtube, your clan and new players will now be featured in a heavily edited video to show their leet skills. You cannot understate how this destroys the population.

    Develop a group of players that are really good, that gives a solid backbone to your clan/alliance? LOL, fuck that newb. They will be recruited by the elites. When that happens, you can watch the casuals just stop logging in in real time.

    This game has content that the elites refuse to let anyone enjoy.

    You refuse to let anyone play this game in anything but small, elite groups.
     
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  2. Oresmacker

    Oresmacker Obsidian Golem
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    I actually started in beta as a noob. Now I'm playing with the "elites"

    Explain how they are suppose to play the game and what "content" you are talking about
     
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  3. Frog

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    A couple Stun spells will sort out those nasty bois.
     
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  6. Lincoln Hawk

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    There was always a problem on NA with the elites not fighting each other, I personally never saw them raiding holdings and I definitely wasnt in anything close to a top tier clan.
    I actually think Unholy Wars has caused alot of the problems with the community here now, as all the elite players actually ended up playing together there because the skill ceiling was lowered so much, allowing numbers to mean far more than they do here in DF. That combined with the fact that UW was a dead game for so long, its altered the mentality of the community.
    Everyone is friends, people dont wanna upset ppl, zerg them down, siege their holdings etc etc and it leads to this circile jerk of the same shit, with the same people posting videos.
    There was a general feel of dislike of the other clans back when this game was more than just a pvp arena, people like the mercs, Awful company,Sun etc were actually hated by some, and this is what made the content, giant battles/wars and true politics....a sandbox.

     
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  7. SuB ZeRo

    SuB ZeRo Frostjarl
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    So much content!
     
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  8. Mc Nasty

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    This is the idiot you are balancing the game around bpg. A toxic person who is holding a grudge from dfo because he died in a pvp game.

    Skreww loose doesn’t even play this dude should show us all on the doll where he was touched.

    City raiding has been dead for months this dude has no clue. All of a sudden anybody who plays is an elitist and ruining the game. This dude is so jaded he doesn’t know one player from the next. He just knows they all have killed him and should be eliminated.

    This is what you get when everyone gets a trophy. It’s not the players fault but game mechanics or the mentality of other players.

    Pathetic
     
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  9. RabbleRabble

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    The content in this game is Village PvP but when the shit system makes you lose 1020 alignment for engaging in the only content in the game people are bound to quit. I wont be resubbing after my time runs out because the terrible GM's refused to give it back. Way to look out for your loyal customers. Cya All in New Dawn
     
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    So... what content? When there's so little content of course people will take any fight they can get. You just argued against yourself.
     
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  11. Synna

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    So youre mad people fight you?
     
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  12. Owyn Magnus

    Owyn Magnus Varangian Warthane

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    Ill spell it out slowly for the elite pvpers.



    People came to darkfall for the massive pvp.

    Elites recruited only other elites and slammed the shit out of the game. They played scorched Earth tactics with everything.

    Any group of casual players allied up to face them they came to the forums and cried Zerg.

    They lose a 7v 10 fight they cry Zerg

    They harrassed and destroyed every big alliance or group of players.

    If they hit your holding and lost, they would keep bringing more till they won...then they would keep wiping that holding every 15 minutes till everyone left or logged out in frustration.

    They always zerged when they had numbers, and cried Zerg when they didn't.

    It got to the point that any time you planned a siege or a war, you had to make sure you brought even numbers or they would bitch and harrassed in game or on the forums. Yes, we would tell people they could not play with us because we did not want to be seen as zerging

    They turned darkfall into what it is now, small group pvp with no room for anyone else.

    They turned it into a game where people would wager alliance holdings on a 1v1 duel.

    They defended Mechanics that prevent them from losing and fought tactics that would prevent us from losing.


    You guys created a dead game. This is the simple truth.

    You don't agree, I get that because you are the problem. First step in any recovery program is admitting you have a problem for a reason.

    Tldr? Casuals left because of your bullshit. Not the grind. Not lack of content. No one played darkfall for the raids or pve.
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    I'm fucking talking about darkfall from the beginning to today. Thought that was pretty obvious
     
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  14. Mc Nasty

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    You keep going on about elites crying on forums but that’s all you do. The fact you are bringing up players who don’t play tells me you don’t play.

    Pro tip not everybody who beats you is some elite player.

    Stop crying
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    You play the victim well beta male
     
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  15. Sorrow Avaritia

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    This is basically a thread about you crying about getting pvp in a pvp game.

    Obviously we need content, there needs to be a reason to get people out into the world, so random encounters and fights can happen.
     
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    Red Moon Reserves recruitng :3
     
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    I disliked it more when large clans ally each others than seeing good players only bending with each others.

    The large clans are actually making it worse when they bend with each together as good players are losing interest in staying with them.
    As large as a single clan maybe, the goal should always be for them to know each others and to be on comms.

    If you are in a large clan and you find yourself surrounded by a large alliance, tell me, how do you win at this point if everytime you see grief goons, it's green, If everytime the opposition think they can take you, they actually do when they got a lot less? A zerg should always be able to win, but they also need to be able to fight a lot and not to constantly scare ppl away.

    Not only that, the usually good players not even in the same clan will suddenly bend with each others even more to fight the zerg alliance when before that, it wasn't necessary to have too much to fight a single large clan. You bring a new recruit with you, best believe that 2 enemies not even in the same clan will go 2on2 on you which actually turns into a 2v1 real quick.
    It's even more demoralizing to realize that you can only win if you go 7-10 vs 2-4 or you lose which actually makes most ppl not wanting to gear back-up so we're left with 2-4 that same day not naked; staring at the bank.
    More demoralizing to see a good player leaving per week.

    ...

    I like to zerg, but not that way. So i've decided to go with fetality brutality for that reason and i'll most-likely stop zerging since it's not really what they're about.

    ...

    We sure need more content, but we actually need content that can support the zerg. To start off, there shouldn't even be a party cap for the village reward. Ppl still want wof removed, but are you crazy? Remove bunny hop first.
     
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  18. Marxman

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    What Owyn is saying is so obviously true that its pretty hilarious to see people pretend like they dont know what hes talking about when they clearly do :laughing:



    Its not a coincidence that the same people who defend elitists also use straight up right wing talking points like "this is what happens when everyone gets a trophy", its just part of American culture to be an elitist douchebag and if you arent an elite (but still a douchebag) you suck up to those who are elite in hopes of one day being like them, they dont attack the elites because they seem themselves as "temporarily inconvenienced millionaires", soon to be elite if they kiss enough elite ass. This is true in every aspect of our society, I doubt the EU servers were this bad in this regard and thats precisely because of the culture of our countries. American culture is toxic, racist, and elitist. The community in this game is simply an extension of our culture as a country.

    Someone even literally posted a "history of darkfall" video, it was definitely very clear you were talking about darkfall as a whole not just the past 2 days or w.e.
     
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    Yeah racism doesn't exist anywhere else in the world (looking at you China), Russia and Brazil aren't known in most big multiplayer games for being predominantly "toxic", and how could I forget that the States invented monarchies.

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Korag

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    Fact is their is tons of content for new players but their is no end game content besides pvp, his point is we had a pop with plenty to do except for the vets who got to the end super fast and then had nothing to do but raid the same city 20+ times a day til everyone moved or stopped loggin in, it isn't a new thing it has happened many times to many clans in many cities.