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Interesting to see the price difference of mage compared to destro

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Blaze, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. BeatIt

    BeatIt Eodrin
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    we have to do relics... i mean obelisks. Why go the ez/fun way when u can do it the hard impossible way ( relics 2018)
     
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  2. birdxd

    birdxd Goblin Warrior

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    please make destro bags the same price as mage bags pls pls pls i wanna play destro. destro needs infernal to be competitively viable vs cobra staffs but me no have infernal bank!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Myater

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    Making them the same price would be making mage bags more expensive not destro bags cheaper. So not having it would still be the issue. You've barely played and I'd assume rarely farm. Hard to get good gear when most people wear shit that way :)
     
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  4. Volfen

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    You're absolutely right. Why add content when we could tweak PVP instead? I don't know how this novel idea hasn't come up before, let me pitch it to the team real quick.
     
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  5. BeatIt

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    lol ur a funny little man

    u most be right, game is really high in pop.
     
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  6. birdxd

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    ok, but you realize making them the same price could mean making destro bags cheaper though. right? haha. or am i trolling
    idk maybe i need to play a little more hehe
     
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  7. Myater

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    All it does is make the prices = not decrease anything. Simply upping mage bags in turn making it more a decision which you wanna farm for instead of just going "mage is cheap so ill play mage".
     
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  8. Sique

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    I think the best course of action is doing something with self buffs. Stoneskin/arrow protection could def get a bit of a nerf, and greatclubs are fucking broken against heavy armor right now.
     
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  9. Blaze

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    Whoa whoa, I'm gonna need you to back off on my clubs
     
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  10. YapYapYap

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    destro is bad just play mage if you want to beat anyone 1v1
     
  11. Sique

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    NO!!!!! u need to stop with those clubs mister
    idk it's definitely a disadvantage but you can definitely compete as a destro in 1v1s. people just aren't playing it well.
     
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  12. YapYapYap

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    You can absolutely compete, i can beat most average mages in a fp q3 bag, but anyone above average you either need insane gear, or have hit like 80% of your arrows, and you need daggers. Very expensive for very little reward aside from being op in groups when buffed
     
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  13. Sorrow Avaritia

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    I feel like a lot of people complain just out of lack of skill.
     
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    Imagine trolling a game you dont play.
     
  15. Itwas Luck

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    The discrepancy in gear bag cost is an objective fact.
     
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  16. Sorrow Avaritia

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    I mean I have agreed with u in a couple of posts that mage and destro bags should be the same (although I think mage bags should be higher cost, not destros lower).

    Was responding to something else.
     
  17. Conqueror

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    Your problem is fixed by making bone armor cost more. It also creates more problems, like making the already broken destroyer class more common.
     
  18. Itwas Luck

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    broken how?
     
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  19. Conqueror

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    The only reason people currently play Mage is because it's cheaper to do so while maintaining the same combat effectiveness. It could be said that mage is easier and stronger due to it's utility, but the only reason those are relevant is because of the dps output of destroyer affected by the current average mage bag.

    If the costs are the same you get more bang for your buck playing destroyer since the amount of protections you receive will greatly surpass the new average mage bag which will consist of regular leather, cloth, or robes.

    Destroyers will be plinking mages for 60s and 70s with arrows again unless you dish out as much money as them to get to where you are currently, which is pretty damn even (mage only wins because of reset potential).

    I guess this could be seen as a good thing? I suppose it would be fun to gear crutch again. We all know how destroyer works. Press W and melee rape everyone in group play. If you thought it was bad before... wait until the average player has to dish out an infernal set cost to go get obliterated like they currently do in group fights. We've already seen what it's like when the average player has the cost of their gear bag increased, which is why we now... again, have to spend more time self-buffing than the time it takes for a fight to end. Such thrilling gameplay.
     
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  20. Itwas Luck

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    I don't think you understand darkfall combat as well as you think you do.

    This is implying that destros will still be using good gear on average while mages will be using worse gear on average in this hypothetical situation where mage bags are equal in cost. currently the average destro bag to be effective is expensive while the average mage bag to be effective is cheap, and people are willing to pay the money to be effective as a destro, why is the same thing not be true for mages? You think if people are put in a situation where they're forced to pay significant gear cost to be effective or be stuck being ineffective, theyre going to choose to be ineffective?

    In your opinion, sure. Go look at the last 1v1 tournament, which was like a year ago at this point, but go look at it. None of the best players played destro. In 1v1 tournaments, no one gives a shit about gear cost. It's one bag and you're trying to win. people care about ego more than anything. The fact that no top player would ever actively choose to play destro in a 1v1 essentially proves that, with the current mechanics and meta, it is not as effective 1v1.


    1) you literally need some mages for group play.
    2) mage is far superior in water combat.
    3) mage has far more survivability than destro
    4) mage is far superior than destroyers for 1v1 combat

    Gear costs will not change this.
     
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