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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ringo Starr, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. mrW

    mrW Black Knight
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    I'm not saying it was intended, so why would I need data to prove it was intended? You're the one calling it an exploit without any way to back your claims up.
     
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  2. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    AV said back when it was reported that it was not intended behavior. They just never bothered to fix it. So, unintended.
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    This is what happens I guess when you threaten the stability of someone's crutch
     
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  3. mrW

    mrW Black Knight
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    First, AV said for years is that they want players to use skills and spells in-game in creative ways. They were even looking into making begone work all directions, but stated it was too hard for them to fix at the time being.

    Second, you are pulling things out of context (or most likely your ass) and they still don't prove how this is an exploit.

    Good luck believing whatever you want to believe though. If you can't comprehend this simple thing, I don't think it's worth expecting a reasonable discussion from you.

    EDIT: According to your terms, being bale to spawn 10 mounts was also an exploit, which is just as ridiculous as your original claim.
     
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  4. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    How is spawning 10 mounts an exploit in my terms??? Answer me this. Are you one of the people who wants clan boxes not spawnable in dungeons, blocking access, because its an exploit?
     
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  5. mrW

    mrW Black Knight
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    It's not an exploit to spawn strongbox in a dungeon.

    /facepalm
     
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  6. Clarence Swamptown

    Clarence Swamptown Black Knight
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    Well technically, and I'm sure the laws of physics would agree with me, but a humanoid warrior wearing an armor and weapons should not have the strength necessary to carry 10 500+kg horses in his backpack. Also, before you bring in the argument of bringing in steedgrass and crafting them on the spot while fighting, I'm sure we could get an equine specialist in here to explain us how long it would take to find a horse out of nowhere and tame it using some grass and a whistle. I am no specialist, but I'm sure it takes more than the amount of time it takes to "craft" a horse in the game. How the hell can you craft a horse btw? That doesn't make any sense.
     
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  7. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    Keep justifying the crutch.
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    Then you're fine. Lots of these bunny hop guys losing their minds saying that the boxes in dungeons are exploits but bunny hopping isnt. I won't call you a hypocrite personally. But the majority of people for bunny hopping are against anything that doesn't let them kill everything that moves at any time or any place.
     
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    loooooooooooool
     
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  9. Adûn

    Adûn Undead Dwarf

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    I address this here, please read the whole excerpt:
    The question isn't whether it's an exploit or not (it isn't; you're misusing the term which is triggering people to troll you), the question is what to do with it in order to turn it into an intuitive, regulated mechanic that has a place in the game for everyone.

    In DF1, AV simply left it alone for two reasons: 1) Even though considered a "happy accident", it fit the FPS nature and high skill ceiling of DFO play and 2) By the time it became widely prevalent, they had already abandoned the game for some time and no longer needed to make an executive decision on what to do with it moving forward.

    Which lead to: In early UW, they gave only the Skirmisher class Dash/Leap/Evade which was a watered down, brain-dead version of "hopping" that only the Skirmisher could do. It was a perfect, pristine example of how NOT to implement bunny hopping. DF has to find its own middle ground.

    Honestly though, I love you bros, but this thread is once again an example of how nothing ever really gets discussed on this forum. No dev input. No community manager hopping in. No "we hear you". Just trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls while the game burns. o/
     
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  10. kilrath81

    kilrath81 Black Knight
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    How many of those games are full loot mmos?
     
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  11. Tonyjablowme

    Tonyjablowme New Member

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    I feel like this couldn't be more wrong from a noobs perspective.
    I joined outlaws early on and they were terrible for a new player, I joined gentlemen and they actually talk to you atleast.

    And I mean honestly, gentlemen the only clan that even replied to my apps as a noob, so think of that to.

    Anyway I'm also a noob that quit so my opinion carries little value.
     
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  12. remixninja

    remixninja Goblin Scout

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    I agree with your comparisons of DFO and Ultima... however... (and not to derail the topic)

    UO was the greatest game I've ever played, and was absolutely shit on by the ren patch / trammel. Trammel was essentially the nail in the coffin to 99% of everyone I played with. Honestly it boggles my mind that anyone who appreciates a sandbox game would be in support of such a heinous rapage of what was once the greatest gaming experience I've ever had.

    Other than that though, you got it right.
     
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  13. Mighty Mouse

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    Ya I agree with you on that we dont need a trammel but would be very cool to make faction wars or order chaos wars. Something to instigate wars conflict and pvp beyond roaming around the map checking spawns.
     
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