(There is a TLDR on the last paragraph) But so is protecting them...Every time there is an issue with vets slaughtering noobs all I ever hear is "it's darkfall, so what." This is what I expect to hear from most people, but I hear this from just about everyone even the people I thought would be better on this issue. I think people got too comfortable seeing a large population thinking it will stay that way so they can be as toxic as they want and it won't make a dent in population. I hope I don't need to point out the obvious flaw in this logic. The way I see it is the vast majority of people are going to kill noobs whenever they see them because noobs are fat little meat sacs with regs/gold/mats and are free kills with zero risk, perfect for a short sighted greedy community like this. However, I thought there were also some groups of people who aren't this short sighted and greedy and would be willing to protect noobs or at the very least not murder them EVERY time they see them, so I joined with one of those groups I thought would fit into this category but every indicator I've gotten so far has been that there are no "groups" willing to protect noobs other than actual nooby clans but they are simply protecting themselves and are not strong enough to do so without creating a massive noob zerg. If they were to try and defend themselves in the only way they can, a zerg, everyone would bitch and moan about dying to a zerg because of how unfair zergs are which is fucking hilarious, it's OK for vets to slaughter noobs despite how unfair it is, but it's not OK to zetg someone down because it's not fair? Unfair fights for vets is a problem and almost all of you cry about it, but why isn't unfair fights for noobs a issue also? It all comes down to selfishness, in your short sighted mind noobs dying to vets non stop is not an issue at all because in the short term that doesn't effect you so why would you care? But zergs do affect you, so all the sudden you care about fairness and honor when it effects you? Too fucking funny. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying NOBODY should EVER kill noobs, I'm simply saying for example if 10 elite dune rats stumble upon a couple noobs throw then a haste and a heal rather than a WoF and a toxic. It's not like if you don't kill the noob no one else will and it will make the game too carebear for noobs and they won't have fun/learn what darkfall is all about,, there will still be a massive amount of people who will try to kill that noob, trust me. We need more people like Lord Zanuul, when I was a noob Jet Boom used to fly around the sky, kill me, and trash all my gear every single day, the ONLY person who ever protected me was Lord Zanuul, even with hacks Zanuul would shit on Jet Boom but as a noob I simply could not defend myself and was playing in mid 2011 so I was already very far behind the grind, being griefed by vets only made the grind that much longer and more annoying. Grinding is boring, let the noobs grind up a bit before you hold their face into the ground. TLDR, if you are upset with being zerged down because it's unfair and not fun but you are not at all upset with noobs dying to vets and having no one to protect them then you are a dumb selfish bastard. You cant cry about zergs being unfair and unhonorable then turn around and tell noobs "it's part of the game, get over it. Welcome to Darkfall." Without looking like the hypocritical selfish douchebags you are.