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Discussion in 'Memory Lane' started by Dim Mok, 12 April 2016.
Most overhyped dudes were Shuyin Hail and KyKy
Sarge is so bad
If you didn't make a PvP video every other day... were you really a player at all?
Ky Ky was probably the best for the first like 6-7 months of the game. When other people started catching up, it was different.
me and sean dillon did a 2v2 vs ky ky/shuyin and they had mastery and 100 ss and we didnt have either
they won the duel with 10% hp on shuyin and only cus he was using a r40 polearm on a 250 hp char lol
i then dueled shuyin a month later when i got invited to RN and smashed him 3 duels in a row
so dont believe the hype.
People have on and off days. One of the most ridiculous things about this incredibly egotistical community is a few duels is enough for players to suddenly think a good player is suddenly bad, or 'trash', or whatever the hell ridiculous term you want to use.
Luck was the most influential and singularly dominant player over the course of DFO's existence.
Was he a God? No.
Were other people able to best him? Sure.
Was he overrated? Absolutely not.
He is the one player that if you watch his videos, regardless of how much he played the game, always got better. You can go back and watch the former players who were good early on and played until the end, and almost all of them plateau'd at some point. Luck didn't. His stat game continually got better, as did his skiing abilities, bow aim, melee exchanges, etc.
I once engaged Ky Ky with a group of about 5 I think it was.He was unbelieveably good aim with arrows and he chased down like a 3 mount equipped player as well at the end.We all thought he was hacking but never did find out if he was or not.
KyKy didn't hack he just had prior experience with FPS games and figured things out way faster than everyone else. He also grinded very efficiently
Also everyone (myself included) was unbelievablly bad back then. Shuyin and kyky wager dueled and shuyin LITERALLY chased him with melee only the entire fight. And Shuyin was considered really good at the time.
Ninja Star (Samurai Ninja on EU) was In kykys clan at beta/launch and he's the one who literally taught me how to jump kite mana,missile while I chased him like a retard. Nobody else I saw was doing that shit in Beta/ early launch or even transfering/ potioning properly let alone whirlwind hop out then archery
If THIS is how the best were playing back then, your group of 5 dorks was probably playing touch butt in the Forrest or humping metal nodes.all day
How I imagine luck coming into this thread
rofl accidentally, stop.
He was able to single-handedly kill 10+ goons on multiple occasions. I remember we once had to plan an ambush with like 15 of us to kill him, and even that took a while. I never saw evidence that he was hacking. SN exploited sometimes, especially to pass through solid areas, but I don't think they hacked.
I'm not sure how good he was compared to other players later on in the game's existence, but he was miles ahead of everyone in the early days.
I'm talking about just Ky Ky, not Shuyin.
this fucking topic lol. This dim mok account HAS to be chad.
that's because most people are somehow too dumb to actually critically evaluate why they lost, failed, or why something didn't happen optimally. That goes for real life too, not just this game. This world is full of retards who repeatedly do things inefficiently and never learn from their mistakes. If there's anything I learned during the time I spent wasting my entire adolescence on video games, it's exactly that.
oh, also I'm not trying to say you're on of those people brendan. love you, breh.
Drilling this in their head is how I taught every noob I ever played with. I'm impressed, something that should be common sense most people don't even begin to understand. LIke this as a life lesson. Repetition/evaluation is the best way to be efficient at anything.
Thanks bb <3
To your first statement, I believe that is due to his videos which goes back to marketing ones self. I know a lot of good players who made no videos but still influenced me. Also, a lot of people couldn't make videos due to FPS lag, so it really goes back to, did you have a beast computer? And did you record everything? With enough footage anyone can make themselves look really good and Luck just like others cherry picked and edited their videos.
To your second statement, I can say the same about most people who played. Look at Obeesho, or Madcowturd, lots of people over time got better and better and it showed in their videos. You could make a point about a plateau but everyone plateau's, even Luck. It's impossible for someone to infinitely get better, after a certain point there is just not much else to do, you hit the cap or ceiling. That's why to me, there are multiple players that occupy the top 10%, it's not just one guy, its a multitude of players that occupy the same space.
The only argument I can see is about consistency, was Luck consistent? I'm not sure, if I just look at videos alone he seems like a beast but if I take into account my own personal experiences versus Luck, I would say no. He's just a good player, plays like every other good destro I've played against, however his retreating ability was some of the best I've seen.
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Who the fuck is Chad?
100% agree that people fail to critically evaluate, and would rather point the finger. Some people critically evaluate themselves and don't like hearing it from someone else.
Also, can you tell us if you used the Nvidia exploit, and if so can you explain how to do it so the BPG guys can fix the issue. We have seen video evidence of it in DFUW, and I'm assuming the same bug is in DF1.
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update: Added names to OP...
I also want to add Val Roth to the list, I remember seeing him get destroyed on NA server but on EU he was a beast. There was a video of him doing a 1v2 versus some Rainbow Ninja guys that gave him a lot of hype initially, but from what I remember Rainbow Ninjas didn't have good players, they were just the meat shields for The Mercs. I just don't have enough experience versus the guy to make that conclusion, I'm only going on videos and discussion on the forums.
top 10%? no shit there are multiple players that occupy the top 10%. 10% of the total population is a huge number. It encompasses a shit ton of people. I understand what you're trying to say though. 0.1% would have been a better number to use. To me, the highest tier of players are players who can, on any given day, beat each other somewhat close to 50% of the time. During the last like, year and a half, there were honestly only probably 3-8 players in this tier at any given moment. So, yes there are multiple players that occupy the highest tier. The number of players however is very small.
And as far as the whole consistency thing goes, I'd like to point out I probably occupied space in the highest tier for longer than any other player. Whether you want to admit it or not, dumb mok, for almost 2 years there wasn't a single person who could beat me significantly more than 50% of the time. That's consistency. also, there's not a single player that comes to mind besides myself that was at the highest tier of player skill both pre and post server move. There were players like blue poo and umberto who were great players pre-server move and were undoubtedly in the highest tier of players post-server move. But were they at the highest level of play pre-server move? nope.
dude, I don't even know what the fuck this Nvidia exploit is. Is this even a real, plausible exploit to use in df, or is this just some ridiculous troll? I'm not playing RoA, and Darkfall 1 shut down like 3 years ago. At this point, I would have no problem admitting to something like that.
I'd say Dim Mok was pretty over rated but I don't think I ever heard anyone rate him at all.
You know, after reading the OP, I'm actually a little bit jealous that it's not me.