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PvP Changes - Zones, Stances, Looting

Discussion in 'Akathar Update' started by Agon Herald, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. Ryco Stormeye

    Ryco Stormeye Crypt Guard

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    Got it thanks kilrain
     
  2. Blaze

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    So first and foremost I'm not against this idea, its a good idea and works in games like albion, but you need a population.
    Anyways I'm fine with it as long as its implemented correctly, you need a feeder system for the sheep.
    Things to address
    1. How is mid map going to work, I think when you are in red zone, you have a 2 minute timer that keeps you in red zone status while crossing over to yellow zones, this is to prevent people from just running from mid map to yellow zone to be safe.
    2. Need to make sure that there are no q4 mobs on the yellow zones, you want players to progress from yellow to red if they want better gear ect
    - Need to move all of the mainland champs to continent imo, 120 stats should not be in yellow zones
    3. Cities, Wonders are going to be needed to move to the continent imo, or sieges for them are gonna be so stupid xD
    (edit- read that villages/sieges will keep the same functions, I still think mines/wonders should be moved to islands to make them more desired to live in for bigger clans )
    4. I don't think mine should be in yellow zones, if anything only selentine mines

    Moving all the mines/wonder to the islands would hopefully keep the bigger clan in staying in them and living in them instead of living in a yellow city.

    @Andrew @kilrain
     
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  3. Andrew

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    Some compensation will happen this patch for existing mob locations but the full conversion will take a few patches as we settle into this new system. We expect to tweak things here and there once the system is live for a bit and we get some proper playtesting.

    Holding mines are going to get some changes as more of TCS comes online over the next few patches. Upkeep and clan platinum will be the next TCS pieces to get in it looks like.
     
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  4. KeredCaltith

    KeredCaltith Goblin Warlord

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    Mainland champs should be red area.
    Sieges should flag everyone hostile not neutral.
     
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  5. Andrew

    Andrew Eodrin
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    We're going to playtest this a bit because we don't want to just make everything of any real value lawless only. Loot compensation for lawless vs lawful is a way we can ensure the risk vs reward is in a good spot.
     
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  6. Sero

    Sero Menhir Sentinal
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    I think its more along the lines of, if you're scroaching a siege > you should take alignment hits, since being at war = no alignment hits.

    There is 0 hardcoded reason to not scroach a siege atm.
     
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  7. Andrew

    Andrew Eodrin
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    Yes sieges are a consideration still for going rogue during the active time only perhaps. We don't want to see self sieges to make rogue zones in lawful.
     
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  8. Fenrir Frauki

    Fenrir Frauki Windlord
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    LOL they are gonna let player cities have yellow zone rules? RIP Darkfall, I won't be playing much longer. Retarded ass changes like this are why this games almost dead right now, this patch will effectively be the nail if the coffin guaranteed. There won't be another patch after this, the plug will be pulled.
     
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  9. Ryco Stormeye

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    For the players to drop only partial loot the main land player cites would need to be in the yellow zones and the players would need to be peacefull or neutral. Hostile players will be full loot as always. If this half way house of risk brings in players would you rather not have a live game with people in it. These people moving from the no risk pvp to partial to full as they gain confidence. If we dont get more players in the game the game is going to die anyway. There are loads of gamers that prefer low risk to high risk in their gaming, look at EvE, look at Albion. These games have tons of players. Some in blue zones, yellow and red. Its a system proven to work and could work here. Yes its not the orginal concept of the orginal Darkfall, the concept thats failed 3 times already. Time to try something new.
     
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  10. Billy Lee

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    Excellent post.
     
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  11. Blaze

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    agree with it bro, thats why im down for this, I hope that it is implemented corretly and improved upon after its put in to change if needed.
     
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  12. KeredCaltith

    KeredCaltith Goblin Warlord

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    Honestly you should poll these issues
    I highly doubt anyone thinks champions should be anything but red zones.
     
  13. Slayven

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    So 110 pots are in red zone??
    120s or some of them I should say are in yellow. Or these been moved??
    Forgive me if this has already been stated in this forum as I only read the first post.

    correct me if I’m wrong.
     
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  14. MikeJT

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    There shouldn't be any "No loot" areas in the game.
     
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  15. Not_Primetime

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    Irrelevant no one wants to play this game with or without "No loot" areas.