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R80 Mats

Discussion in 'Game Design Discussion' started by Sintan, May 27, 2019.

  1. Sintan

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    Yo, put them back on villages please. Just lower their drop rate. These items should not be as rare as they are. There is no real reason to bring them out when they cost more than most of the things you could be fighting over while using them.

    If the worry is Donny and his 20 alts just make it so they only have a chance to drop for one character per village and lower the % chance and call it a day. Easy peasy. I want to see more in the game boys. Make it happen

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    Drunk tan is best tan

    +1
     
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  3. Lexendros

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    This is a decent idea. An r80 shouldn't be cost equivalent of an entire holding.
     
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  4. LunaryaSol

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    Definitely more of a collector item since they aren't easily replaceable right now, would love to see them in use more! The really well done models are being wasted otherwise and it would give people another reason to want to tag along to villages as well!
     
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  5. Pink Taco

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    Don't put em on villages, please. Put them as rare drops off certain mobs or as you have it off champions... maybe a very tiny chance off Hard regular mobs. Village system is trash imo.
     
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  6. JasperHawkins

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    Definitely don't add them back to villages that just promotes people zerging Villages or stack up alts at them. Definitely should add them back to trade route loot though would give incentive to do trade routes.

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    They should be rare drops off certain high end monsters.... please finally give me a reason to farm for Seedwood(Baradron?) or Darkshards(Erodach?) or Ildstein(Leenspar golem?) or Riadan Steel(Theyril Golem?). You get the point.
     
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    game seriously lacks rare stuff like this, it seems like such a simple change, but yes this is a step in the right direction.

    9/10 mobs in this game seriously feel so unrewarding right now. All farming routes got nerfed, all loot got nerfed. Its unfun. Theres champions/guardians but those are barely worth it.
     
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  9. Metalkon

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    They're on trade routes already
     
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    which no one does because 9/10 runs leads to underwhelming loot
     
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    Game needs more reason to kill PvE and less over taking villages. Especially with this massive world and low population. It shouldn't be that hard to update drop rates of villages/monsters when the server population changes.
     
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    What's the drop rate? People are saying they never have seen them.
     
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    Probably worse than eodrin eye off an eodrin. I know that I personally have done 13 and never gotten a r80 mat. Honeslty none of those 13 runs were even remotely worth the time invested.
     
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    #FucktheTan
     
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    If you run it with 2 other alts its decent gold per hour. But it's also some of the most boring and tedious shit in existence.

    If there was just an option to wager more gold, instead of having to brings alts to wager more, trade routes would be a lot better.
     
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    #feedback
     
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    Have done a couple traderoutes.

    Before the loot change, I would get between 8-32 rare ores, very decent other rewards, and usually once every two or three traderoutes, would get a rank 80 mat (sometimes multiples in the same route) as well as other useful stuff.

    I have had a lot of time to think about this, running across the map. Now we get a bunch of fucking fish, and other garbage for about half of the loot, housing mats, and mats for armor and gear that is unreleased.

    I have not seen a r80 mat in months.

    Either my rng is just non-existant or I dunno, but I have not seen an r80 in probably 20 trade routes

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  18. Metalkon

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    The R80 materials are quite rare though to address your concerns about resource containers dropping fish/food/ect, they have two loot tables (two drops) and the first loot table is almost always rare materials or housing materials, where the second loot table is simply the kind of items you'd expect a trade route to be shipping in the lore.
     
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    rare material being 4 rare maybe 8 rare ore at best, maybe some housing mats and other loot way more easily gathered somewhere else, thanks for the response. Have not seen the r80s in 20 runs

    Thanks,

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  20. Sintan

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    They shouldn't be THAT rare. At one point in this game the mats across the board were selling for like 30k per. Each r80 costed around 125k to craft w/o an enchant making them somewhat reasonable to bring out. Sunbows now are worth upwards of 500-600k enchanted. That is hands down worth more than any holding in the game that doesn't have a constructed wonder and any other fight it's laughable to even think of bringing the bow out let alone a full racial bag.
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    The items should absolutely be special. No one is arguing that but without true value to fights in this game outside of the gear you can loot there is no reason to use them unless you're straight blobbing and have a very low risk of losing them.
     
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