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remove destroyer

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Fenrir Frauki, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Animal

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    Sorry to break it to you nerds, but destro/mk is dog shit in 1v1/2v2's compared to mage when played almost fucking perfectly on both sides.

    Protip: Come hither is a cool spell in 2v2s.

    Protip: Melee v melee is still your best bet at winning against destro, but everyone is a giant pussy. It takes nothing to parry bow shots, then ray, then parry the next bow shot. Do that until you have even a 10-15% advantage and force melee. GG. It's even worse if you land a sluggish at any point.
     
  2. Blaze

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    Out transition the destro gg
     
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  3. Yomi Scythetalon

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    Nope @Animal @Blaze its OP impossible to lose. All siege forces are now going to be Only destro. Mage obsolete
     
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    thats not the point.

    the point is that play heavy is dumb, boring and cheese and most of ppl want to play the original version of this.
     
  5. Animal

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    Who are these "most people".... Anyone that would play DFO destro is playing destro right now. All 5 of us.
     
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    #revertCombat means revert destro too.

    85 ppl voted yes
    21 voted no.

    "most of ppl.."
     
  7. Animal

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    Feel free to look at the topics polled that directly effected heavy play and notice that's not how math works. Pretty sure the majority voted toward keeping the current heavy, actually.
     
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    make no sense revert combat keeping heavy like this.
     
  9. Yomi Scythetalon

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    I actually voted for the revert. But i dont want keep this or that. Either complete revert or dont revert at all.
     
  10. Grimtide

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    LOL you have 4 times that many just in your clan man
     
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    Interesting. How many of them play it outside of sieges? The answer is 4(out of 40+).

    How many people in Exodus Rats play destro for day to day PvP? Smooth - and he's mentally handicapped(French Canadian... same thing), so he doesn't even count as a number.

    Other than that.... You'll mostly likely only be able to name Yomi, Bug, Creamy, myself, Cyborg, and Trixie as people that play destro consistently. Cyborg is only on for sieges and Creamy only recently came back.

    So in spite of heavy being soooooo broken - we find that under 10 players choose it for day to day PvP. I find it interesting how people tend to play to win, but we see so few heavies in the world outside of sieges.
     
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    I was digging a map up once and it was in a spot i couldn't get to...the gm told me to take off my chest and wof...I don't even have the school let alone the spell. True destro
     
  13. Animal

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    Sorry, I forgot about you for a second there :p
     
  14. Grimtide

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    Theres a lot more people who play destro than that, just not very good ones man
     
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    Correlation =/= Causation bud.

    Getting zerged down in a full infernal set is the anti-thesis of fun. You named the most die-hard destros and claim thats all when in reality theres a lot of people playing destro, or swapping inbetween. You'd know that if you played the game.

    Mage is still cheaper and seeing as how runebooks enable zergs to move in on you at any moment, im willing to say that people don't want to farm a full infernal set just to give it to the first twat that blows a horn.
     
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    This isn't Philosophy 101, Sero. Causality follows more than a purely logical inductive foundation, but that doesn't even apply here because we have hard numbers from which we can establish sound arguments.

    The reality is that the cost disparity between a Mage and Heavy bag is minimal now. An even better way to look at it.... what's the difference in protections between FP, Infernal, and Dragon(Hint: There's probably no reason to go above FP outside of sieges).
     
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    HELLO?
     
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    The cost of a gearbag isn't the armor. It's the weapons, staves, and enchants. If you think an extra 12-15k for FP fillers makes the difference.... Wut?

    I thought you play this game like 8 hours a day.... this is BASIC knowledge.
     
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    [​IMG]

    No one is talking about full plate. Full plate Destro VS Full Plate Mage is for the most part balanced (being able to stat through back damage is still absurd) as long as the destro has equal melee weapons, equal enchants and a silverbranch (compared to mage cobra).

    Any complaint towards destro being OP is in regards to the gear crutching that is currently a full infernal set Q4+ and r70 weapons.

    PS: It's not philosophy 101, it's fucking science and statistics 101.
     
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  20. Animal

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    Trust me. We're all taking about FP.

    No one is going out to farm in full infernal as a destro. I don't even do that shit.

    My daily PvP bags are FP with q4/5 enchants. Hell, some of my siege bags are FP.

    P.S: Do you know where the saying "Correlation does not imply causation" comes from, right? It's a philosophical argument.

    It isn't hard to discern where variables that determine play-style choices diverge. I'm sure BPG can take a look and verify that.
     
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