I fully comprehend the can of worms this question is. Despite that, I have to know. Who is any good? There are obviously the veteran players who have kicked around in Original DF and later in UW and are now gravitated towards Rise of Agon over New Dawn due to their sense that this is where the "hardcore" fighters are. So these veterans will come in varying flavors. Being around awhile doesn't necessarily mean you're any good at the dang game. So then there is the holdings. It would seem logical that the clans with holdings are capable of holding their own with the best of them, after all they have territory to defend and likely had to fight for it to begin with. But that is not always the case either. Sometimes pure numbers or settling down while things are peaceful nets large groups of squishy teddy bear knights their own little castle. So this might not be a clear indicator. But I still see the phrase "good player" getting thrown around so there is clearly some understanding of who can kick some ass and who gets eaten when the big kids come to town. I haven't really touched Darkfall that much, I did a really short stint of poking UW, and I spent less than 24 hours on the boring empty early launch of Rise of Agon, but I'm a many-year veteran of Mortal Online and similar full-loot MMORPGs. I know how these games form some pride and sense of place around skill level. So just so I know who to look out for, and who to seek out, what's the pecking order around here? What groups or individuals define the course of a battle when they enter it?