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Streamable content

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by miasMa, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. miasMa

    miasMa Varangian Warthane
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    Game needs some form of streamable content if you ever want it to grow with the current rate of patching. What does that mean?

    • Consistent action or progress to show on stream
    • Non stream snipe-able content
    Those are the two main areas that are needed to pull in streamers that will stick around and pull in more viewers than people trying to stream snipe or bored of bank staring (AKA the current Darkfall pop). Darkfall is the hardest game to stream, fix that. If everyone that posts fights with each other over this and breaks TOS, this will become a reality. You know what to do boys.
     
  2. Tuloth

    Tuloth Infernal
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    But what content would fit that description? The only thing that really fits the bill is some kind of arena or battleground which might "kill" open world. An Espenhal staking arena may do well? Something along the lines of the old RuneScape arena, set specific rules in a safe area, agree to terms, get teleported into an arena, but who knows if people will go for that.

    I believe @RootedOak had a suggestion awhile back for a DAoC style "open-world" battleground
     
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    Buffalo Spaceman Frostjarl
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    It's literally one group of retards that pushed streamers out of this game. Just one group. A single snipe here and there doesn't push people out of the game, but a few select people who do nothing but play this game all the while attributing to the death of the game in every aspect do.
     
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    Should be banned. No one would miss them.
     
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  5. miasMa

    miasMa Varangian Warthane
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    That's Darkfalls atmosphere, you either change that with new rules that could potentially ruin open world PvP or you fix it by adding content that takes away from open world PvP and stream sniping abilities.

    I never played DAoC, but I believe the concept of that system was later implemented into Warhammer Online, no? If so I know what you're talking about but that's just content to be added to Darkfall, it doesn't necessarily solve any problems in the OP. I'm not going to discuss what is required to fill these two bullet-points as everyone knows what can be done to fill them. I am merely stating games nowadays thrive off of streaming and Darkfall streaming will never grow because the casual streamer will never be able to stream the game. Only the hardcore Darkfall players can stream the game currently and most of them have toxic comm's that won't ever bring in the casual viewership as most people don't want to hear that or do not enjoy that type of streaming.




































    edit: F you guys, gotta cause a fight to get the thread noticed. I'll boneyard you @Buffalo Spaceman. [​IMG]
     
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  6. kilrain

    kilrain Shadow Knight
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    First, please don't start fights and start throwing insults back and forth. That doesn't gain attention it loses it. The post in question had 3-4 half decent posts and the rest results in it getting closed.. a few days too late I might add.

    As far as streamable content, sure we'd love to, but what is possible in this harsh world that wouldn't result in rage?

    I'm going to discuss stream sniping rules. That's a start.
     
  7. Squanto

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    How are you going to determine if someone is streamsniping? Other than proof through twitch chat/viewers list/ingame pms?

    Do I get to just turn on my stream and whenever I die I cry streamsnipe and get someone banned?


    Also just a long shot, especially considering the rate of patches, but if you were to create a seperate arena server where players are able to select loadouts from a menu and queue into either a battle royale or an deathmatch gamemode you would have dozens of people streaming the game which would lead to more people playing the live server. The seperate server wouldn't have anything linked to the live game other than an elo system/leaderboard and maybe you could get titles or cosmetic items from it.
     
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    It's not for the single guy sniping once in a while, it would literally just be for the pile of retards everybody knows is sniping when they are doing it. Who fucking cares how they determine it, there will be 3 or 4 people banned for it and as Rex said, nobody will miss them.
     
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    how do you get people to go from the arena to the live world? I mean how does one being much much different attract to another?
     
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    You market "siege warfare, territory control, crafting, and large scale battles" only on the MAIN server. The sandbox elements. Use the public test server for pvp only.One closed off arena on each continent.

    1v1-10v10.

    You can que up in a party with friends, or join a random Game with people you may have never played wth before


    You guys say you had a "pivotal moment", go all in and make a drastic change to the ENTIRE game. Not s tiny combat aspect. Easily streamable, pks can stay away from the @Avenging Martyr of the game.

    Just want to make combat changes, try it directly on the "pvp" server where we can fight each other immediately before it goes live.


    This would actually be pretty nice to give thought to though @kilrain
     
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  11. GrimReapiN

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    Slippery slope on the whole stream sniper ban mentality.

    I don't enjoy stream sniping. But I know the risks of streaming in an FPS full loot game: if I don't have enough friends, it's over.

    I'm literally making myself a lightning rod for action. Why? Because i'm creating a living event that is my character's perspective.

    Perhaps actually fixing issues within the game, instead of just banning players for playing it, is a better solution.

    Kilrai, my suggestion is an improvement to the alignment system that would punish players for killing in areas that are meant for more casual play. Which you've done great so far with villages.

    If a player is out roaming/ farming... punish guys that want to kill that player over and over again. Give them a debuff. Who cares. That player is NOT looking for PvP. The occasional kill, ok. I get it. But the griefing should be dealt with by in-game mechanics, not by an overlords GM God's thumb.

    A player should be marked as red for griefing. Red should not be a badge of honor. It's meant to show people who are abusing other player's experience. Which they should be allowed to do in a sandbox game, but not without punishment that is a tapering effect which will eventually curb the shit for a time being.

    And I think that's a fair opinion.
     
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    I just hate the word "punishing" when talking about doing it to someone cause of their play style and feel ya have to be careful with it. We have guys that openly talk about and attempt on occasion succeeding in directly hurting the pop by trying to greif people out of the game. I don't agree with it but do ya ban that person? do ya make him weaker because of it? Hard to say if their is a good way to deal with it.
     
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    It's not hard to say. Punish them. But kdo so with in-game mechanics. I 100% agree stream snipers should be punished. Griefers should be punished.

    The issue right now is that steamers/players have no choice. You can be grieved out, and the griefer can't be fairly punished.

    Want to bindcamp? Fine. War Dec them. They're in a clan, that's politics. One small example of a mechanic that works with alignment.

    I really do believe alignment, that is working and fair, and can't be exploited, is a great mechanic that DIRECTS players towards working together, but does not force them to.

    Race wars, with alignment penalty, and a cooldown on when players can remake their character on their account, would do wonders for streaming. @kilrain
     
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    BPG announces stream snipers will be banned. Next day all players start streaming. "Can't kill me I'm streaming". Stupid thread...
     
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    Korag Evil Eye
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    please link where anyone from BPG said they was going to ban anyone?
     
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    :/ oh trinity where is everyone?
     
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    Korag Evil Eye
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    I am not the leader of this guild or the keeper/baby sitter so why in the world you would ask me this is beyond me?
    But just out of curiosity why are you asking me?
     
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    When i get my nee comp ill prolly stream regardless of the snipes i just wont wear amasing armor idc ill do it more 2 show new players the game. And wont b streaming much while doing guild stuff and if i do ill make sure they all know and r fine with it for that session
     
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    Because bud you're captain big talk on the forums I want your input. last I checked you claimed my "balls were small and I was all talk" Now i'm here giving you content and pvp and you won't fight us.
     
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    Korag Evil Eye
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    You are all talk.
    Your talking now
    I don't keep track of people and what their doing. I play with Yomi cause he asked me to and he is a cool guy and I am not the one telling people they are going to grief a clan out of the game, if anyone was captain big talk it would be you I am captain back your mouth up or shut the fuck up. I did fight ya this morning or this afternoon a few times but didn't have the numbers/right people to stop the asset. We will see ya tomorrow and win or lose your still full of shit trash talking angry nerd lol...

    Expect you to keep your word for the next month, or ya ain't nutin but a big mouth lil bitch.