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The Reality Of Darkfall's current situation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Franchise, Aug 18, 2016.

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  1. Lord Zanuul

    Lord Zanuul Spellgazer
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    Sorry man but that is a completely defeated attitude all they need to do is fix the game for new players and then Market it if they can up the retention rate than the game will be successful and it will fill up the server
     
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  2. DeathRow

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    Actually quite nice. The population was utter shit and yet hotspots could be gotten to and PvP could be found without wasting 6 hours roaming. The point is, no one is saying "HEY REMOVE THE ISLANDS FOREVER CUZ POP SUX" The suggestion, is to TEMPORARILY gate parts of the map so the population cannot spread to the corners of the earth and create a stale empty world that requires hours and hours of searching to find another player.
     
  3. Obeesho

    Obeesho Black Knight
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    You do not need to limit or shrink the map even with a small population.

    All you need to do if things are feeling sparse is to create content that draws people into one area of the map.

    Boom, problem solved.
     
  4. Zybane

    Zybane Goblin Scout

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    Why not just temporarily remove mobs and any incentives to go to the small islands at the beginning. I'm not one for a smaller world, but at least you can keep the players on the main island until the population can be evaluated.

    Not sure why everyone rags on UW, or the first six months the game was very fun.
     
  5. onslaught

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    They could possibly do live events in one area of the map for a few days. Not sure on if they are going to be doing live events due to how busy they are during this phase of beta but it would help. The reason I think they should stay in one area for a few days is it let's people get there and condenses the population in that area. Doing live events in one particular area for one day doesn't do this.

    Remember, a lot of people aren't playing because they are casual and the gains are just too slow, especially stat gains. Having to do it all over again at launch would be torture.
     
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  6. Super Star

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    The choice to go to an island to get away from people is great. Being able to have a better chance to farm in peace and just enjoy the game for what it is i think is pretty awesome and sometimes a good option to have. Also depending on which island you go to it carries a different feeling/theme to it which is also visually very appealing.

    A lot of people currently are either playing the entire beta, playing only the first couple days, playing for the first 2 free weeks so population will be im sure much less than it will be on launch.
     
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  7. Mimitis TheOne

    Mimitis TheOne Undead Dwarf

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    keep this map for what it is, in dfuw there was also a smaller map but still couldnt find pvp, doesnt make sence, if bpg just gets alot of content in different places at different times it would get players to there and there will be pvp! just make more content where alot of players are involved, and you know what, they are gonna get alot of that in to the game. did you not reed the anouncement? they are planning alot of good shit
     
  8. Mighty

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    I think opinions are like assholes, everyones got one.

    My asshole is telling me... the map is fine. Look at unholywars which is what a few of you are saying. Its not the map as much as we need points of interest in the game that cause PvP to happen, such as the monoliths/village reqs or even the sea towers now going live on friday etc. These are just the base game poi though, we should come up with creative ways that cause an influx of players to go to a certain region.

    but i'm off to work
     
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  9. BusterBaldwin

    BusterBaldwin Goblin Shaman

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    The bigger the better. Just don't turn it into trammel and felluca (for all you veteran gamers out there).
     
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  10. Mighty

    Mighty Skeleton Archer
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    Actually it could be a good idea to redesign one of the islands with the purpose of territorial control, regionalization and conflict in mind and see how it goes
     
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  11. Benevolence

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    Just add portal chambers and the map becomes smaller immediately.

    You can remove them if you ever feel theres enough population for it. its an easy switch, unlike removing whole fucking continents. fuck that.

    +nif is the shit.
     
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  12. Grimtide

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    This is why portal chambers are important.
     
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  13. Franchise

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    This world is designed for 35,000 players and we have less than 500. If we removed the Island's and left just agon the world would still be able to comfortably hold about 23,000 players. This is with putting 40 players at every NPC, 20 at every city, 10, at every hamlet and 5 at every chaos bank. The fact any of you are arguing TEMPORARILY disabling part's of the world to help with the current gaming experience for vets and new players both is crazy.
     
  14. Eletas Whitevale

    Eletas Whitevale Undead Dwarf
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    We shouldn't disable or delete content from the game at all. Everyone's going to have their opinions and I see what you are saying, but there are other ways to create an active world without literally removing large portions of the game.
     
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  15. Andrew

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    Spending the resources we have on such a large endeavour would take away from more meaningful updates that will benefit the game long term.

    Beta will have a lower pop than launch as we're not really advertising much till we get more changes in place. The game needs more work on the new player experience before we can really push the game out to market.
     
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  16. Mycke

    Mycke Obsidian Golem

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    What you need are regional hot spots, like one for each island and 2-3 spread on mainland, something along the lines of a monolith that periodically becomes the best thing to do in that time period in that region, so everyone in the area looking for something to do will generally do that. Something like this will give good small scale pvp draws, because i think right now the problem is that there are too many 'best places to go' so people only occasionally go to the same one, where this will give a time and a place for people to specifically go knowing others will be there..
     
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  17. Isilith Tehroth

    Isilith Tehroth Goblin Scout
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    Map doesn't need to be smaller. It is a fundemental aspect of the game and makes it so you can't travel from side of the world to another in a manner of minutes like most other mmos out there. Just add more reasons to go out in the world with interactions.
     
  18. tanto

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    Gota have new player retention, but also have to have end game content. Sieges, territorial control, conflicts, politics, all that is supposed to be end game content, but without large population it falls miserably flat.

    Hopefully they can make the changes needed to keep a large population, but if not major structural changes will be required. If we just wait until after release to try such things we probably already fail..

    If we try crazy shit now during beta, maybe we find a sweet spot. At least we can turn back bad ideas during beta and people wont mass exit.
     
  19. onslaught

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    Similar to what I was saying, but this is better since it is automated and won't need a GM to do it. I just thought that this was already "in the works" and kind of a land towers sort of thing.
     
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  20. Rath TNT

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    Still not certain this isnt an elaborate troll. Im loving being back in the expansive world. If you want conflict, go look for it and stop asking for BPG to turn RoA into UW.
     
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