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To Destros complaining about Sele/FP

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by wolfgang, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. wolfgang

    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    You're doing it wrong. I played destro for all my of time in DFO, RoA alpha and beta, and I destroyed above average mages all the time.

    Armor should be the LAST thing to focus on in your pvp gear.

    WEAPONS are the real game changers for a destro, specifically your melee weapon.

    This was my standard pvp gear set:
    Justicebringer (r60 GS)
    Silverbranch (r70 bow)
    Plate set with stamina efficiency

    Yes, you read that right. I would use r60 and r70 weapons in a PLATE SET.

    A keened Justicebringer will kill a mage in bone set in 6-7 back hits. Your WEAPON is what makes you a threat, this is what makes your stickybacks so deadly. Better armor only allows you a higher margin of error, allowing you to miss more bow shots as you close in to melee range. If you get a good stickyback off, you could be NAKED and kill a mage in 5 seconds, as long as you are using a good weapon.

    Your priority for building a gear set should be:
    weapon > arcane jewelry > stam efficiency enchant > armor

    NEVER wear a FP set unless you have an r60 melee weapon. Preferably with keen.

    Save your selentine for SILVERBRANCHES, until you have a good stockpile of them built up.

    Don't even think about wearing a full plate set until you have atleast r60 weapons, arcane jewelry, and stam efficiency enchant on your chest.
     
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  2. HPV

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    Yeah archery hurts.
     
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    Frog Black Knight
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    Yes agreed, the difference in damage between a plate/scale set and a full plate one isn't as much as people make out. A good keened weapon will melt a mage who isn't extremely good at kiting
     
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  4. Zeiken

    Zeiken Undead Dwarf

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    Ore nerf/Selentine golems in retarded places, shit drop rate, shit respawn timer. /thread
     
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  5. wolfgang

    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    There are more sele golem spawns than there were in DFO
    Plus now that they made r60 bows cheaper, you dont even need to make silverbranches. Thats alot of sele ore you just saved that can go toward full plate.

    Don't forget they also made mage gear alot more expensive.
     
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  6. Zeiken

    Zeiken Undead Dwarf

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    mage gear more expensive? Bone set with leather fillers and a blackbolt? I don't follow. Yeah more Sele golems but they are in the fucking dumbest areas in the map where people don't even wanna bother traveling to
     
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  7. wolfgang

    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    Bone sets now cost Q1 bone. Blackbolts cost Q1 venom sac.
    I don't even have a full dura blackbolt in my bank, and I'm reduced to using hastestaffs.
     
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  8. Zeiken

    Zeiken Undead Dwarf

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    I can literally farm skeletons within tower range for endless bone sets. Sarlids for endless venom sacs also near a tower. not sure what you are getting at. Im a destro and have 100 in tailor and have about 42 ribcages and 100+ skele bones from a noob spawn of skeletons next to a tower in ork lands. Please you cant be serious lol
     
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  9. wolfgang

    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    Mages, what would you rather face?

    A destro in full plate using r40s, or a destro in plate using r60s?

    Full plate + r40s
    11 sele ingots

    Plate + r60s
    composite bow = 1 sele ingot + 2 neithal ingot
    deepblade = 1 sele ingot + 1 neithal
    2 sele ingots, 3 neithal ingots

    WAY CHEAPER AND WAY DEADLIER
     
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    Oresmacker Obsidian Golem
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    FP fillers to replace scale and plate for the rest, same weapons as wolfgang said.
     
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  11. wolfgang

    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    Bone set + blackbolt is junk. All r50+ staffs now cost rare ore.
    Plus mages also need melee weapons. And a lot more regs.
    + atleast 500k gold and a month of grinding

    but you're missing my point. Full plate armor isn't what you should be focusing on. Its r60 weapons
     
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  12. Zeiken

    Zeiken Undead Dwarf

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    the thing is mages don't even need r50 staff. Blackbolt is more than enough atm. Agreed on the weapon though. Still the fact remains, mage gear bag is a joke while destro bag with the current way to get sele ore is retarded. your original comment was about how it USED to be, not taking into consideration the recent ore/gold nerf and still terrible drop rates/locations/respawn times of sele golems. It's been suggested many times, it's not a game breaking suggestion, simply increase sele golem spawns (mainland) and increase chances of getting ore a bit higher
     
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    wolfgang Goblin Warlord
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    And plate armor is more than enough atm. All you need are r60 weapons

    and with the changes to r60 bows, you don't even need selentine.

    Mages also need melee weapons. Mages also need arcane jewelry. Mages also need enchants. Gear grind isn't limited to destros.

    Yes, destro gear is going to be more expensive, but fact is, destro gear is always going to cost more than mage gear, due to the insane magic grind. But, destro gear grind isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. You don't need a full plate set, just good weapons.

    Easy fix would be making rare ore golems a little weaker to physical damage, allowing destros to farm them too.
     
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    The only cost destros have above a mage is armor.

    We use everything a destro uses.

    The good staffs take rare ore and cost 5000 gold per.

    We will also use 4 pieces of full plate/infernal on our armor set when we are really rocking and rolling.

    But like the op stated...that's last on the list for building an effective fighting set up.

    It's true that a mage can have a base level of effectiveness with a cheaper setup than a destro. But that's really just a scrub level of effectiveness compared to being decked out (comparable to decked out destro)
     
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  15. Skitzo1

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    warbow Instead of composite
     
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    fine robes, r0 staff, r40 gs 4life
     
  17. Zeiken

    Zeiken Undead Dwarf

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    You want stam efficiency on chest and feather on helm
     
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    Ron Mexico Fire Elemental
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    Don't bring logic into these kinds of discussions, the destroyers don't understand and get angry.
     
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    Sacrillegious Fire Elemental
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    Vermilli vermilli vermilli
     
  20. Clarence Swamptown

    Clarence Swamptown Black Knight
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    Agreed that weapons are more important, but it still doesn't make sense that leenspar/infernal is easier to get than selentine/fp, and that the alternative is using a mix of plate and fkn scale (or just skip FP and go straight to infernal). If you consider also that selentine is really important for crafting some of these weapons, it makes even less sense. I don't see any reason to go way out of nowhere on some tiny ass island to go farm selentine golems who drop a very low amount of ores when I can just go farm leenspar golems instead.
     
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