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Water Casting is worse than using a mount to get out of a house

Discussion in 'Rise of Agon Videos' started by Train of Pain, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. Damphousse

    Damphousse Goblin Warrior
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    Clever use of game mechanics. Just fix the bug if anything. Don't ban the guy. Free my ninja Minotaur King
     
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  2. mrW

    mrW Black Knight
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    Let's bring back spawning mounts and siege stones underwater too, that was as skillful
     
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  3. Sorrow Avaritia

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    I hope u are joking, neither of these were skillful or added anything to the game.
     
  4. chad

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    It would actually be pathetic if he got banned for this.
     
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  5. nerdhz

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    i wouldnt pay much attention to train, hes just slacking, clan hopping and recently shaming the game and calling it shit on his streams
     
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    He is just an old trash can looking for attention.
     
  7. nerdSlayer

    nerdSlayer Goblin Warlord

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    AV Mods as a measuring stick LOL. "The house is on fire AV, what do you guys think?" "It's just fine!"

    Hate to be that guy but...any MMO examples? Because that's the most fair comparison. We used to have resurrect bugs in competitive GW2 that were patched out and bannable offenses. WoW was pretty harsh on exploits too.

    I don't think any MMO blatantly lets you exploit or use an unintended feature anywhere close to how much Darkfall lets you.
     
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  8. MikeJT

    MikeJT Black Knight
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    Clearly not an intended mechanic.

    Therefore an exploit.

    Therefore bannable.

    Simple.

    If we were supposed to be able to cast underwater we'd just be able to look down and cast.

    Only use if you're a massive dick and you don't mind getting a ban.
     
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  9. Frog

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    asheron's call, the entirety of mage combat is based on "exploits"
     
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  10. RootedOak

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    Most of those things aren't really bugs tbh. The water's surface thing probably has to do with some problem AV created that takes a lot of work to fix. I would probably call that a bug. I like it, but I understand the skill ceiling in the water is already high and lots of people do not like that as it is.
     
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  11. yogrrt

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    I watched this on stream, and my knee jerk reaction was that it was clearly an exploit. I had never seen this done before.

    In my mind, it is clear that its not intended in any way. Under water fighting = Bow only. As soon as I saw this rule of the game world being broken, it was like "yeah thats bullshit". You could compare it to walking through walls, its a clear black and white rule of the world being broken.

    Everyone brings up a good point about all the other so called "exploits" being allowed. There is no clear rules about what is permissible and what isn't. But this is my perspective of having never seen it before.
     
  12. Sean Connery

    Sean Connery Fire Elemental
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    How is it done?
     
  13. Slayven

    Slayven Eodrin
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    Correct positioning of camera when in water..did not know this was still a thing lol.
    Bugs been in game forever now.
     
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    Start your cast above water and then release it while you go under. Takes a little bit of practice to get it right but then it's pretty easy to do every time.

    Edit: also this was a very common thing in DF1, and was not considered an exploit by most of the community. Saw it all the time in PVP and can't really remember it getting brought up on the forums. Wouldn't mind if it was removed, though.
     
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    This is acceptable, nothing new from Dfo.
     
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    Get your "rules broken" in by every higher level player in pretty much any high level competition.
    Its not the players fault this bug has been in the game and being since darkfall existed. Nor is it the player fault it has not been fixed. People started using it other people saw it adapted. You cant suddenly come in and call things people have been doing forever an exploit an punish them.
     
  17. yogrrt

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    Right, I understand there is the context of this being widely known about and used. I wasnt saying the person should be punished. My intent was to offer a different perspective. If I had known about and used it a lot in the past, id probably have a different perspective.
     
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  18. Ringo Starr

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    Its a problem in Darkfall in general. Nothing is transparent, you dont even know what skills you supposed to be able to buy as a destroyer. You pretty much have to rely on other people telling you or wasting time on testing stuff yourself.
    Personally I think either watercasting should be possible, or it shouldnt be. This half assed bug that everyone using isn't ideal. But fixing it went wrong before so I doubt they will even attempt to do it.
     
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  19. aerodude

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    ive been a bad boy.
     
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  20. satan

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    Adds depth to the game. I like it
     
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