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Poll What is a reasonable time to farm 10x q3 mage bags?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Copperfield, Apr 16, 2020.

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What is reasonable time?

  1. <1 hour

    3 vote(s)
    9.1%
  2. from 2 till 5 hours

    18 vote(s)
    54.5%
  3. 5 hours to 10 hours

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. 10 hours and above

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. Copperfield

    Copperfield Black Knight
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    Since we want more players and new blood coming to the game i was wondering what you think its a reasonable time to farm these sets..

    - Tedium?
    - Casual friendly?
    - hardcore efforts and time consuming?

    q3 Staff
    q3 JB
    q3 mana eff
    q3 enc
    q3 stam eff
    bone fillers
    2 fp items

    materials needed:

    JB's : 10 x jb = 40 veilron ore and 20 neither ore : takes around 2 hours to farm these excluding travel time
    FP items: 10 x 4 ore = 40 ore and some normal ore : takes around 1.5 hours to farm these
    bone fillers: 1 hour??
    Blackbolts mats: sacs and such.. 1 hour???

    Q3 mann eff : 50x claw + 50x lifeforce + 50x sparkstone these take 1 hour each... so that's 3 hours
    q3 magni : 50x tooth + 50x sacs + 50x eye = 3 hours
    q3 encum for helmet : 50x horn + 50x claw + 50x cinder = another 3 hours
    q3 staff eff : 50x sacs +50x horn + 50x claw = 3 hours
    q3 keeness : 50x taint + 50x bile + 50x cinder = 3 hours


    Give or take disregarding the traveltimes and such and a noobs confusion where to go and what to farm..

    Total ingame time spend to farm these around 21 hours to farm these 10 mage bags ( ingame time )


    Considering the fact that a new players cant pvp yet.. and might lose this in a single day or maybe 2 to get to the good parts of the game which is the pvp and combat around vcp's and sieges... i think this is taking way too much time to gather your gearsets and things needs to been looked @..

    Also remember that the farming player cant sell these mats.. and only makes gold in the progress.

    IMO: these timestamps are way to high for a casual player to get to the fun part of the game..

    Suggestion :

    Add daily quests with mage sets rewards.. travel quest's // kill quest's whatever,
    So that people can quest on daily basis to get a mage/destroy set
     
  2. Ryco Stormeye

    Ryco Stormeye Undead Dwarf

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    I think some of the issue is that new players dont know what Q3 mobs to farm to get
    the most Q3 mats per hour.

    I.e You could farm Grey Iklits for Q3 Venom Sac or Tomb Iklits and get way more
    You could farm Forest Prophets for Q3 Lifefroce or Treants and get way more

    Q4 and Q5 are easy they only drop 1-3 items every time. Q3 are harder as some drop 0-2 while others drop 0-6
     
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  3. Adam Worth

    Adam Worth Goblin Shaman
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    You haven't tested any of this! You literally just making numbers up.

    Because I can farm all of the Q3 mats you mention or Q2 to turn into Q3 in 30 mins ish for each item. Some less.

    It really takes you one hour to farm 50 claws!? You farming naked with a leafblade or something?

    Also half these mobs drop one of the other mobs mats in Q2 version in bulk. So you can farm horn and cinder, claw and bile together. You can also sell all the other crap these mobs drop and buy half the other shit on the list, cuttign farm time in half again...

    Learn to play David!
     
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  4. Copperfield

    Copperfield Black Knight
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    Tell me your total of amount of ingame time to farm these 10 mages sets.. and come back to me
     
  5. Volfen

    Volfen Chosen of Khamset
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    I have no idea how you can manage to only farm 50 of a q3 mat in 1 hour. You can farm ~90 q3 horn AND cinder together in 1 hour, for example. 50 venom sac is a handful of spawns of Tomb Iklits, I'd be surprised if it takes more than half hour.
    Q1 venom sac you can prob farm hundreds in an hour, and it only takes 5 plus a small amount of iron/wood/w/e for blackbolts.
    I don't know farming speed of every mat off the top of my head, but you're way off.

    Also, I've been buying half of these q3 mats (no cinder, horn, claw, or venom sac because they're so easy to farm) on the market for ~300 fairly effectively, which is way more efficient than farming for example Hobgoblins. I can effectively kill 3-4 forest golems/dark dragons/baradrons/erodachs/etcs and make enough gold off of selling that for 300 q3 mats granted I'm ok with waiting a week or 2 and don't need them RIGHT NOW.
    Same applies to Veilron. I've been buying it for ~2.2k per ingot, bought prob 100+ in the last 2 weeks.

    In short, you're farming inefficiently to begin with, and you're apparently not taking advantage of the market which makes things even easier.
     
  6. The Red King

    The Red King Obsidian Golem
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    Or just kill the baradron, erodach, Or forest golem in an hour and sell all the shit and buy 10 q3 bags,
     
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  7. Kantor

    Kantor Black Knight
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    Who’s selling i’ll buy bulk
     
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  8. The Red King

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    How much u paying per Q3 bag?
     
  9. Kantor

    Kantor Black Knight
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    Idk how much are Q3 bags going for?
     
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    Well i die in about 5 seconds going to villages solo trying to get better so i wouldnt mind if it only took 1 hour per bag
     
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  11. Blaze

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    yo 0.0 those claw/cinder numbers are stupid wrong,
     
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  12. SuB ZeRo

    SuB ZeRo Black Knight
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    Can be as quick as 20 seconds. All you have to do is kill other people.

    -Roach a fight & ninja some bags
    -Kill someone at a mob spawn at 1 hit
     
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  13. Little Lamp

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    Honestly it just depends on how long @chad is pvping, if he goes to 3 villages thats 3 bags for anyone to take
     
  14. chad

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    :rage::rage::rage:
     
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  15. Copperfield

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    this thread is not about my caculcations of farming time POV of a noob

    if im off 4/5 hours so be it..

    the question is about the farming time for 10x mage sets..

    Example: a cascual player dont wanne farm 10 hours to get 10 sets which he will lose in 2 days.

    the overview can be measured by the poll..
     
  16. The Red King

    The Red King Obsidian Golem
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    Have the guy pvp At lawful vcps and pve on mainland until he learns the game. He will acquire more wealth and lose less sets.
     
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  17. Scrapnotcrap

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    Possibly less than an hour or 2. But no, it takes way too long to make bags because crafting is even more tedious than farming atm: especially if you have to look for crafters. Making the bags takes long enough too.

    The last thing you should do is to get all these mats by yourself if you don't like tedium.

    I farm one type of mob: high end mob. I sell everything that it drops, i keep what i'll actually be using. I hit the market and purchase everything that i need to make multiple pvp bags.

    The market may not have what you need. No problem: create a buy order and ask ppl on agon chat to fill-it up. In not more than a day, your orders are ready.

    Unless it's very serious, i cap q3, bb, jb, r60 dagger, fp. It's very easy

    Also, you should seriously think about making a free alt account if you don't have one. You can farm almost twice as fast with one. 3 character total is even better if you want to rotate between 3 spawns with bolts or arrows. 2 characters is enough to buff yourself.

    With 2 characters, i made 200 matayin claw in a hour.
     
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  18. Conqueror

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    Should do away with crafting, and gear in general, and just make it so you load into an arena with gear already accessible instead.
     
  19. Buffalo Spaceman

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    Hes talking about new players farming and then there 10 vets who been playing since forever talkin bout how they can farm this easy. Yeah no fucking shit you can farm it easy, you know everything there is to know about the game and its spawns. He's talking about new players and the grind and accessibility of semi viable gear.

    At the end of the day it should be easy, but it should disappear from the world quicker. I like the idea of dura loss on gank from another topic. Make gear easier to get but also easier to break. Shit last too long in this game.
     
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  20. Conqueror

    Conqueror Goblin Shaman

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    So new players shouldnt need to learn the game? Why play a game? To get everything handed to you? Or to figure it out and conquer it?