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Why B-Hop Needs A Different Approach

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Avenging Martyr, Jan 13, 2018.

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  1. Avenging Martyr

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    LOL,

    Not even close. If I combined all my forum posts I've ever done. It still wouldn't equal just the time I've spent chasing in the first month of RoA.

    Though I'm sure you doubt that but I can type fast. Where I am sure you have no idea you can type beyond 120 characters.

    Keep trolling the forums with Good ol dismissive insults. I'm sure it'll help this game/community.



    It's funny how much you people bitch to me about me being bad, can't aim yadda yadda.


    When in reality you know without such a broken easy escape method you would die over and over again. It's not me crying about dying.

    It's you crying about potentially dying. I am frustrated for the entire blue side. The non toxic, non sadist, non elitists who should be able to play this game.

    Instead all I've heard on this thread from you people comes down to my precious pixels, my precious ego. People say this community is hardcore. You're all hilariously softcore.

    Like most of our former community I will watch and wait in the shadows.



    BPG gets their shit together and stops catering to you. Then I would definitely come back.

    Though I expect that's only going to happen after a lot of work and a relaunch of RoA.

    Arguing with you twits on such simple b.s. made me realize how much I miss darkfall fights. Real fights. Not this bouncy house cage match.



    I'm sure you and whats left of this private lan party will be happy to hear I am moving on. I won't be arguing about B-Hop anymore as I find BPG silent and not one fucking person has been able to understand the argument or even try to.

    No one cares to think of anyone but their precious pixels and egos here. Crying for broken mechanics and easily abused systems to satisfy your precious need to escape anything.



    I decided to tracert the New Dawn server. Turns out even in north west of Canada I get less than 160 ping. I can work with that so I'll give their launch a go. Man their idea for build diversity is more annoying than a class system IMO. Their versions of world travel and local banking? Oh god why. But even with all that b.s. I'll still have more fun than this game offers.


    The funniest part is I held back hope BPG might get their shit together. It was only after seeing the endless don't give a fuck attitude of this forum that I decided to seriously contemplate New Dawn.

    Honestly I should thank you trolls. You helped push me toward a game that might give me some entertainment. Certainly more than I get here.

    So I feel I owe you an apology of sorts.

    If anything our trolls push people away from our toxicity into the competition. Congratulations on helping slowly kill this game as you've always done. I'm sure you'll accomplish that goal within a year or two if BPG doesn't break the mold and ignore you kids crying for an obviously broken mechanics/systems.

    Good luck BPG. Try not to run yourself into bankruptcy. If you ever make this even remotely close to a real MMO/Game I'll be back.

    PS: Good luck kids, enjoy bouncing across Agon. I'm sure you'll be the very best that ever was.
     
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    Nice dismissive use of buzzwords like elitists, solo, bouncy house, fuck, pixels, egos, and toxic.

    Way to be a hypocrite!
     
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    Git Gud, Learn to Aim, want to learn how? etc etc etc.

    I'm the hypocrite?

    The current state of this game is a bouncy house cage match. Maybe you enjoy that but that is how I see it.

    Crying so you won't die? So you can forever escape? Why would you need that so much if it wasn't for your fragile ego. Fear of actually losing and the pixels would be lost.

    You are toxic. At this point regarding you and your pals I'm becoming toxic.

    No matter what you say. Within the current state of this game the negatives far outweigh the positives.

    This can be proven simply because 99% that ever tried this game no longer play it. Though maybe not for the exact same reasons they do agree it is not fun. Hence they do not play.

    Content won't keep new players. Safe zones won't help them beyond the havens. BPG needs to make some tough calls and I don't envy the drama incoming.
     
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    Hey! Look what happens when you "git gud" and "learn to aim"



    It's like your original issue of people running away completely dissappears, because you got good/learned how to coordinate and land your spells. Almost like it's not even a dismissive insult, but a solid piece of actual advice.

    smoked. next.

    P.S. Let me help you out with your argumentation. Start with this:

    "I am bad at the game, and so are many others. I think this game is too hard to appeal to the majority of people who play MMORPGs/Video games in general. This is how we can lower the difficulty: (insert new arguments here)".
     
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    You contradict yourself in nearly every post you make yet you refuse to see it while getting angry that we don't see it your way.
     
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    Aw still quoting real fight scenarios. They are good vacuum arguments. God it's like you really believe you can catch a Harassing B-Hopper easily. Simply ignorant.

    Then again I understand the blatant lies and your arguments. I mean how would you live without such a broken mechanic.

    Don't worry, I doubt BPG would grow a pair. Even if they did they've already lost the newb/casual crowd. They lose the toxic element and the server is truly dead. I can hope against hope but chances are it is your private lan party till the end. Just like vanilla DF.

    Trolololol. I'm surprised you even have your forum account still. I contradict myself hmmm? You mean how I fling shit at you like you fling shit at me? The insults and such?

    Cause I know what I've been discussing this whole time has never changed except what path to deal with it has changes. At least my opinion did.


    Best you ever thought of was "Waste lots of gold and even more peoples time and you might raise your odds of potentially stopping the issue as long as you all waste you day"

    Maybe you have so little in your life you can waste time on mass. Most people have jobs, family, friends and free time is precious. Believe it or not this virtual world will never be the priority for most.

    I get angry that such broken mechanics are beloved by all that is left on this dying server.

    Not because they are skillful or entertaining. Simply because you'd get wrecked without it.

    The best escape method in the game. Not succesul because you're so good as you tell yourself. It's just so fucking tedious that people give up.

    Just like I'm giving up on this topic here. I've chased the answer... it never even got into sight but at least I tried.

    You think I should feel bad for insulting you when you endlessly insult others?

    Fuck off.
     
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    Go watch my nearly 20 pvp videos and show me where I win because of endless hopping or how id get destroyed without bhop in.

    I have the sneaking suspicion that your ability (or lack thereof) in darkfall has largely tainted your view of good players and game mechanics.
     
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    You can tell you are actually either:

    A. Manic
    B. Delusional
    C. Psychotic
    D. All of the above

    Because when you are presented with literal evidence contradicting your arguments you respond with "dismissive insults"

    Go see a professional bruv. Stay safe.
     
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    Ah the very Definition of a waste of time.

    If I sitll gave a fuck I'd probably be able to record time marks. Then again you probably delete footage when you fuck up or scenarios where you should die and just run and run like the whining bitch you are.

    All you ever come down to is my precious ego. Me, me, me, me, me

    I'm talking about newbs, casuals, baddies and the vast majority OF OTHER PEOPLE. Which non of you give a single fuck about.

    The people who are no longer hear.

    No worries BPG changes this shit they'd probably most of whats left of this community. They won't so you can shut up troll
     
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    Let me paraphrase that for the rest of the class:

    It's almost like my previous argument of adding a safe zone/high sec area gives a place for noobs to play the game safely until they are capable of playing the game at the high skill ceiling it was so beautifully designed for (or possibly by sheer dumb luck).
     
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    Lol, good dismissive insult. That's much better than the previous ones.

    I'm out enjoy the dying game bitches.

    PS: You've never presented any evidence EVER for properly dealing with new player/clan harassers using B-Hop. Sure examples of what to do in real fights when the enemy B-Hops away. As if that was hard or complicated lol. Which is beside the point and always was. Nothing any of you said works. You won't fool BPG and I've posted enough. I'm off to *shudders* new dawn.
     
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    Knock them up, blind them, wof them, come hither them. Mount up and chase them.

    Smoked. Next.

    Also love your use of the phrase: "real fight" LOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    Bhop removal won't change that harassment is the point you're too stubborn or dumb to understand.
     
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    One last reply since you are such a trolling fuck and I'd hate BPG to think anything you've said makes sense.

    Knock ups won't work unless you can land it. Again the enemy is going to be FAR when responding to the harassment scenarios.

    You might be able to juggle them but lets get real the first mount sound, buff, begone etc and they are B-hopping away.

    Chances of stopping him with Knock Ups. I'd estimate less than 20% chance for a veteran.

    Blinds with them running away at a distance? Pungent Mist is impossible due to range. Eye Rot maybe but again less than 20% chance for a veteran. Confusion? Possible but with B-Hop and enviroment waiting for it to travel far enough and get it in front to blind his ass? Also hoping he doesn't avoid it? Blind = highly unlikely.

    WoF other than not having the range to be effective I guess it's fine.

    Come hither lol. yes in a real fight I love doing that but against someone B-Hopping at the drop of a hat from afar it's again pointless due to range issues.

    Mount up and chase them LMFAO.

    Yep real fights. You know the ones where you fight and don't hop into the distance?

    Remember those? Long time ago I know but I remember them.

    We'll continue to agree to disagree on that. It would change it a lot.

    Though it will never happen because the ones left on this server would probably leave without it. You so called pros would start dying alot more.

    A critical mistake equals death? How silly.

    Peace.
     
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    I mean let's be real here.

    It's painstakingly obvious that this guy has a bone to pick with bunnyhopping (possibly something to do with the previous scenario I mentioned), and is using the very specific scenario of a bunch of newbs, living on their own, getting harassed by vets as an argument for the total removal of the mechanic.

    Fails to account for:

    - Why/How did a bunch of noobs that know very little/nothing about the game acquire a piece of territory that allows vets to harass them in the first place.
    - Removing Bhopping won't stop the noobs from getting harassed/destroyed
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    Wow. You really do suck at this game don't you?

    (I'm literally dying of laughter as I type this out)
    GIT GUD. LEARN TO AIM.
     
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    God dammit, can I just leave with you spewing even more false shit?

    Why do you need to keep creating fictional shit. Is it just your trollish nature?

    It's obvious I have dealt with this Bullshit far too much and I won't ever again. BPG can keep it but I am most won't partake in such silly tedious wastes of time.

    New clans should be able to get a holding maybe not hold it forever but they should have a fucking slim hope. They did get a few when the server was fresh and use to get ones in early Vanilla DF. Before this B-Hop B.S.

    The game shouldn't be just fucking vets you twit.

    Even VETERAN clans suffer from this shit. Anyone who has lots of newbies will if the right shit stains know they are there. We sure had more than our share of this shit.

    This issue is way beyond just newb clans and their holdings. You think these guys aren't easy to spot anywhere in the world in their shit gear and obvious lack of experience with whatever they are doing?

    You think those types can't recognize players they don't want to jump vs those they do? It's not complicated and it doesn't matter if they are in a veteran clan. A newbie clan or our solo in this world. They get fucked by such broken B.S.

    Won't stop them from being destroyed. It will give others a chance of turning the table.

    Instead of the table hopping off into the horizon and the "fight" being forever stalled. Until the chasers get so bored of this tedious shit the troll wins because others stop even trying.

    Just like me with this thread. I'm sure you think you've won the arguments and that's fine. Pat yourself on the back. Personally this is tedious just like B-Hop and I'm done. I just BPG can see through the next trolling nonsense you spew.

    PS: I want you to make a video of landing a knockup on a guy moving away at an odd angle and full B-Hop speed roughly 70-100 feet away from you. Non-Edited video and do it back to back in one session.

    I want to see 20 attempts in a row at a high speed non aligned target at a distance champ.

    You do that and we can talk champ.
     
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    How do you expect to fight a target if you already within fighting distance of him? MORE SO HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO CATCH A TARGET IF YOU CAN'T BUNNYHOP TO CHASE AFTER HIM?

    DERP DUR DUR DUR. It's like you're sitting in a mirror constantly saying the samething over and over to yourself with practically no ability to comprehend your situation. You're actually insane.
     
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    The point is well taken from both sides, thanks for your input.
     
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