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Why blizzard needs a nerf.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Virginicus Maximus, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. Virginicus Maximus

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    Blizzard needs a nerf because it takes the versatility out of spellcasting.

    1-It has the most stam drain
    2- Fastest casting time (by about half a cast)
    3- A knock up

    This makes all other AoE's inferior too use. I personally hate blizzard and think it has the most retarded animation of all time.

    Please make unholy flames, exploding charge, and virtuous wrath useable again BPG.
     
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    I remember they did something and made it so the others were used, forget what they did.

    Funny though, it used to be Inferno was OP, then it was Exploding, now it's Blizzard? meh.
     
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    The Red King Obsidian Golem
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    Revert to Beta!!! We did not have this issue in DF1 all 90's were useful cept maybe earth one - sorry Obeesho lol
     
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  4. Virginicus Maximus

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    Agreed !
     
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  5. Sorrow Avaritia

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    Isn't blizzard also the slowest traveling AoE, meaning it will probably do less damage than the others and less likely to be a direct hit.
     
  6. Virginicus Maximus

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    Wrong, its trajectory is the exact same, as it might be slower in long distances; in ray range, it doesn't make a difference tbh.
     
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  7. Sorrow Avaritia

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    If its slower in long range its also slower in short range, there needs to be differences in aoes if not we may as well just have one school, I wish there was a reason for using each type of aoe.
     
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    Nah its fast as fuck
     
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    Unless they have changed it since I last played which has been quite a long time it def travels slower than the other aoes.
     
  10. Dagoth Ur

    Dagoth Ur Goblin Warlord

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    Unless it has been changed very recently it is significantly slower than the other r90s, except for inferno which is the same speed.

    however because the game is mostly played in ray range, the speed does not matter much.
     
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    To me it’s fast enough where I put damage on it where as most of the others I change to speed. Everything got fucked when they equalized all 90s and 50s.
     
  12. Ryco Stormeye

    Ryco Stormeye Undead Dwarf

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    They reverted the equlization of the R90 and R50 ages ago
     
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    Yes they did but like everything else they did it half assed.

    In df 1 Unholy used to hit the hardest, exploding had the most stam damage, virtual was the fastest, blizzard casted faster etc.
     
  14. Ryco Stormeye

    Ryco Stormeye Undead Dwarf

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    I have them all at lvl 5 with max stats and have tested them loads. In order of most left to right they are

    Damage - Unholy/Virtous, Blizzard , Inferno/Distintergrate, Exploding
    Cast time - Blizzard , Exploding/Virtous, Unholy/Inferno/Distintergrate
    Projectile Speed - Distintergrate, Virtous, Unholy/Exploding, Blizzard /Inferno
    Stat Drain - Blizzard /Exploding 20% Stamina, Unholy/Virtous 10% Stamina 10% Mana, Inferno/Disintergrate 10% Stamina

    I think there is enough difference between them. The issue is that Blizzard has high damage, fastest cast time, and 20% stamina drain.
     
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  15. Virginicus Maximus

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    Agreed bro

    This^

    nothing like DFO, nobody even used blizzard.

    Yeah it has the highest stam drain, the fastest cast time, and travels the same as the other 4-5 schools.

    edit: AND A KNOCKUP forgot that
     
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  16. Ryco Stormeye

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    It does more damage then exploding charge against a naked but against metal armour it does less. As the 20% stamina drain is based on health damage done often its exploding that does the most stamina drain. Yes it has the fastest cast time. Yes it travels in a straight line like the others but as I stated its joint slowest travel speed with Inferno and yes it has a small knockup like exploding.

    I am not saying dont change it. I am saying it would be nice if each R90 or even better each magic school had a better flavour or reason to use it over another magic school. The current reason for each school is;

    Fire - Knockups
    Lightining - Targets the hole in metal armour
    Water - Fastest casting
    Earth - Fastest travel Time
    Arcane/Necro - Hides casting of WoF/Eyerot
     
  17. Neilk

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    The only difference between r90's now and in DFO is the equalized cooldown so you don't need to cycle two.
     
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  18. Virginicus Maximus

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    Are you sure ab that? I do not remember blizzard even being even close to viable.
     
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    Now its the GOAT
     
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    I’m pretty sure at one point it had a faster cast time, traveled slower and had lesser distance to evaporate. However, I believe that was all changed and it’s the same as exploding charge now.
     
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