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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vader2103, May 20, 2020.

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  1. Landon Denniston

    Landon Denniston Goblin Warlord

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    pop would go up for like 2-3 months prob then go back on the decline and i bet by the sixth month its gonna be right back to where it is right now.
     
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  2. aparks

    aparks Obsidian Golem
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    I been pushing for wipes since the first day of alpha. This game only holds its population during the first month Or two of a launCh. There for SEASONS are and will always be the only thing df can maintain a high pop. People love the Beginning grind As much as they say they don’t. It’s because the sheep can zerg vs skilled vets.
     
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  3. Garou

    Garou Deadeye

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    people love the beginning grind because they actually have something to do, and because everyone has something to do people meet organically in the world and pvp happens all the time.

    Achieving goals feels good, too bad they took it out the game.

    "Your mastery of x has gone up" spam was good, hearing all those little dings was good, shit really gets the dopamine flowing (and its not just me, its been studied),

    Now theres no goals to work towards

    even if there were the dings are gone

    never again do we get to enjoy the joy of accomplishment in this game.


    People think they want an even playing field pvp arena, but they dont, because nothing is more depressing than an even playing field, because if the playing field is even the only thing to blame for losing is yourself, and if youre losing all the time and there is nothing you can work towards in the game that might improve your odds you might aswell quit, and people do.
     
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  4. clyde frog

    clyde frog Goblin Shaman
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    This
     
  5. Brando Pando

    Brando Pando Crypt Guard
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    The grind definitely needed some tweaks (to much stuff to level, no way to effectively level attributes), but I thought the game was better with character progression. Making crafting and levelling super easy was a pretty short sighted decision, especially considering there has been no additions to the end game to supplement all of that lost content. I think a lot of people were expecting TCS/arena/other content to be added so that all these maxed out characters could have something to do. Now the average play session boils down to dueling/farming or villages (they even ruined seiges with the plat change).

    As for the wipe, if the game wants to be taken seriously it needs to be done at some point. I agree it would do little in the games current state, but with all the stuff the game has gone through it only makes sense. We have had duplication glitches, mob scaling, and other flaws (people printing money/mats with the old village system) that have added waaay to many high end mats to the game. On top of that, there are still glitched items in the game aswell. There are multiple people with bugged transmutes which have 1.0 damage on top of the ele damage and enchant. Im talking daggers that can hit over damage cap and kill you in 4-5 swings. Can’t have that stuff happening if you want this game to be taken seriously.
     
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  6. KoKane

    KoKane Celestial
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    Wipe is redundant. Stupid thread that somehow turned into another wipe discussion.


    Marketplace = turbo economy. You'll get to this state again within a couple of weeks. Stop trying to make the original DFO launch happen repeatedly. Everything you need is readily available on the market now.
    Imagine launch days but now we have marketplace too.. we'd get to this 'state' again, even quicker, always.

    Move forward.
    Just work on the faucets, come up with more creative ways to deplete stockpiles.
    And I havent seen a single screenshot of these apparently 'game breaking' banks?
     
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  7. clyde frog

    clyde frog Goblin Shaman
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    its not about "game breaking banks" its a total lack of content, every game launches new expansions every couple of years which makes the previous content/gear almost irrelevant. BPG is a private server which lacks the capacity to do this so they should just follow the private server model, just a new server every couple of years to give players some sort of content. Private wow servers have been doing this for literally 15 years with never adding new content
     
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  8. DesimusMaximus

    DesimusMaximus Goblin Warrior
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    Every 6 months there should be a bank wipe. But every year ut should be a FULL wipe ATLEAAAAST because this gives more pop and the newer players a small chance against skilled vets. I did a 1v5 not long ago and they didnt lose much gear at all because of zones. Zones should be turned off at vcps atleast. This game is supposed to be full loot but now its not. Even your official trailer says its full loot but its not. Now your trailer is merely CLICKBAIT
     
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  9. clyde frog

    clyde frog Goblin Shaman
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    if they launched a "classic" dfo server and kept this server up, which server do you think would have more people :D
     
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  10. Porch

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    An uw classfall server
     
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  11. clyde frog

    clyde frog Goblin Shaman
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    Im excited they already have server locations picked. I never played UW but ive heard only good things about it.
     
  12. KoKane

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    Seasons aint gonna fix anything.

    You'll just have people stop playing as you approach wipe date. Some people having a hard time or losing too many sieges or baby raging for whatever flavour of the month complaint? They'll drop off even sooner.

    Game will be dead before seasonal wipe day... because of seasonal wipe day being a thing.
    There's already so few reasons to take part in things available on the daily..
    It'll be like pulling back the curtain and shining a light on the pointlessness of it. "Seasonal wipes, now the game has 100% less point to it"
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    depends... untill the new new one comes out? or the new new new one after that?
     
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    Auron Chosen of Khamset
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    No wipe
     
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    Mods where the fuck are you? You have stated we will never wipe. People have invested thousands of hours in this game. It's an MMO with long term progression. Fucking shit heads on a forum don't dictate product direction. Darkfall has been a staple for over 10 years. You have an established customer. Keep building new features. Follow your direction. It's a good one.
     
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  15. clyde frog

    clyde frog Goblin Shaman
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    for real you should be banned for trash talking other customers simply because there opinion is different than yours
     
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    Dont worry, they are. And they've made it clear too. Just some people repeat it on the daily.

    Remember when we told AV that if you split the server pop into 2 regions, it'll be the slow death of the game - which it was.

    Scores of EU players who didnt use the forums (speaking non english languages) aswell as others in general who didn't use the forum, were subjected to the change because of the extremely vocal, but small, minority.
    Relentless crying made that happen.
     
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    Pretty funny seeing this post especially.

    Veterans of RoA have been talking about this problem for over a year now but everytime it's brought up it's shutdown in hopes of appealing to casuals.

    If you login to the game for more than an hour a day, you start to notice how easy it is to acquire wealth in this game.
     
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  18. Porch

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    You know i love you but seasons are what we need man. Will pop drop as we get close to the fresh release date yeah. But at the same time everyone will bring out the goods just like they did at the end of dfo.

    A clan can be down an out but i get hard abut you and others thinking about a plan to win the next season. This is what were going 5o do at launch this is the holding qere going to grab etc. Btw this will also push clans to take on noobs who might eventually become a core guild mates that will play with yoy for the next upteen seasons.

    I love you all but im drunk as hell right now. War Tulsi gabbard and wiping this shit yearly.
     
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  19. Kol Taggar

    Kol Taggar Celestial
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    VADER? LETS GO PVP VADER
     
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  20. Garou

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    The problem with the economy is that the game is full of passive income.

    People go to villages for pvp and get big loot while at it, most of the day uncontested, and always for 0 effort, literally mostly afk.

    people afk tap mines, again 0 effort big loots.

    The new chaos chest loot adds to this too, getting off of your mount is hardly much effort for 10-100k

    even if you put 0 effort into making money in this game money will come to you.
     
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